Memory Cell with Control and Application (Train Filler)

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Memory Cell with Control and Application (Train Filler)

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Hello everyone, finally I came up with something worh sharing. It all started here: viewtopic.php?f=8&t=14584 Then I continued investigating and improoving the system. finally the cell is not too small but it works very well and it is FAST. So I got the memory cell and then came to my mind a possible application which is having different train configurations stored and being able to get a train with those contents. I did a mockup to show the concepts and capabilities of the system. Of course it has some limitations but I plan to work on them. Also if you came up with some suggestion or request I'd be happy to try to implement it (try means guarantee is void xD).

Edit: If you want to use more than 10 cells or you want to use them to store signals (including W,R,E...), or if you want to store negative values and rewrite on busy cells please see new version below.

To set up the memory cell, only 3 combinators must be changed, including the number or signal desired as identifier
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Here the blueprint of it:

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The current capabilities of the memory cells are:
  • 1tick - writing to cell number # with the wollowing syntax: W(1), #(1), Signal to store
  • 1tick - reading from cell number # + optional writing to another cell # in the same tick + optional modification of the signal with the syntax: R(1),#(-1),[#(1), Signal to add/substract]
  • 1tick - erasing cell(s) with the syntax: E(1),#(1),#(1)....
It shows green light if it is free and yellow if it has something stored. It only needs to be connected on the red cable on the substation and it will write, read and erase from there.

Currently you can't modify the contents of the cell without moving it to another cell but i think it can be implemented if needed.


ok so let's start the show, this is the mockup with the blueprint, I''ll post blueprints as well of smaller parts of the system but i'd recommend putting this which is quite big but has a lot to experiment.
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For my project of the train station i made a control unit to run a program through the circuit. It's a clock and then the combinators are set sequentially, the times i chose for isntruction execution (1, 100, 200, 300) are distant to better show how it works. Each time the clock (signal T) reaches those values a pulse with the corresponding isntruction is sent. The program included does the following:
  • clean all the cells
  • write the desired contents of the train as signal to cell #1
  • writes a test signal on 4
  • reads from memory 1 and moves it to 0 (station will start to operate, see below)
  • reads from 4 and add a chest test signal and writes to #2
  • erase 4 is optional so is deactivated
  • read from 2 and write contents of test increased signal to 5
Please note the execution takes 700 ticks and you have to stop the clock or the program will be run again once it reaches 1500 (these values can be changed according to the needs)
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In this picture you can see the control unit and the array at the end of the program. To start the sample program in the mockup just turn on the execution constant combinator. Then when the program finishes you have to STOP manually the execution or put a too high value on the limiter. Otherwise you will execute again. To reset the program to T=0 just use the reset with atention not to leave the reset signal on.

To test the one tick speed I made a fast program you can test (this after the other please xD):

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Then I modified a cell to connect it to the station, it has no Read on it so it can only be written or reset.
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Once it is written the station will start providing the materials to fill the train with the corresponding sent quantities. It will modify the value stored on the special cell as it provides the materials and final state will be your train carrying what you asked on the program :shock: , +-1 item of error :oops:

Please note this is not a working station but a mockup so i only got the items i needed in the requesters and I only have 1 wagon. I think anyways if you understood how it works you can adapt it to your needs. I'll work to make a functional version for me and I'll try to improve some aspects I'm not completely happy with. For example having more memory addresses and the possibility to modify the memory content but this is a working platform that can be used. I'd also like to implement some system that allows me to run a program once and then stops and reset everything, maybe somebody has a suggestion, I've not look in depth to the combinator contraptions thread but I will now that i have some basics. I'd appreciate any kind of feedback, bugs, and of course, if you find a use for them I'd be more than happy to know about it.
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Re: Memory Cell with Control and Application (Train Filler)

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Would be so useful if we had the option of limiting inserters to stack size of 1 regardless of research, ideally part of a circuit condition so for example if you want 100 items in a chest you tell the inserter to limit stack size once count > 96.
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Hello again, I was working to implement my cells with a display (viewtopic.php?f=193&t=32489) so then I realized I will need all the letters and maybe more addresses, since i was not very satisfied with 0-9. Then I changed everything xD. The philosophy is the same so there is an array of cells with addresses consisting on a number signal (0-9) with the quantity corresponding to a multiple of 2, so 1(2), 3(4), 2(16) are 3 cells of an array of 3 columns and at least 2 rows for 1, 3 rows for 3 and 5 rows for 2. Due to this adress system it is only possible to read/write on different columns because 2 adresses of the same column will produce an error. 2 columns are minimum recommended for useful application.

To change the adress of the cell you have to configure the primary adresses (in blue) for the column and the secondary adress (in red) for the row:
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The main isntructions are now: Write with the blueprint book signal, read and optional write to another adress with the blueprint signal and erase with the deconstruction panel signal.

The current capabilities of the memory cells are:

1tick - writing to cell number X(#) with the following syntax: Blueprintbook(1), X(#), Signal to store
1tick - reading from cell number X(#) + [optional writing to another cell Y(#) in the same tick + optional modification of the signal] with the syntax: Blueprint(1), X(-#),[Y(#), Signal to add/substract]
1tick - erasing cell X(#) with the syntax: Deconstructionplanner(1), X(#)

It shows green light if it is free and yellow if it has something stored. It only needs to be connected on the red cable on the substation and it will write, read and erase from there.

Here I have a control unit with some programs (red), and righr blue group, the start and reset as in previous version (please see above) and a reset for all the array (now is for 5 rows but can be extended)
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I post attached the blueprints since otherwise this would take too much space: first cell of column 1, second cell of column 2, the control unit and a test setup with control unit plus 2 columns that is what i recommend to see how it works. I dont have so much time to go into detail but in case you have any question I'll try to answer.

As I said i used this system to control Xeteth display. if you are interested I can also blueprint all the setup but it is quite huge
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Re: Memory Cell with Control and Application (Train Filler)

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Hello, today I was re-testing the display and now it's working very good. As I saw somebody downloaded the cells, pelase find attached a working display with the 2 column arrays of memory cells. Now the program that is set up will store the misterious words on column 2 and then copy them to column 1. Once column one detects it has content, it starts printing the words on the display. Enjoy!
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