Development and Discussion

[Arch666Angel]

A few words about Bio Industries - this mod contains - CO or carbon monoxide - but in Bio Industries this gas call CO - I don't insist but in principle you could override this gas
Question about liquid air - i think this is really very simplistic form of air liquefaction, very easy but not realistic, I have used it many recipes are becoming very realistic, but it's up to you to decide how hardcore should be this chain

I have one suggestion: change the compatibility for fertilizer so we can use bio industries instead oh Bob's greenhouse

Fertilizer requires bob sodium hydroxide instead of Petrochem sodium hydroxide

I know u did really huge work with this mod and again big thanks to u but bob mod's can interact with another popular mods, please you have to consider that there are other mods with hard crafting chains

There is an global override in place so that every instance of bob sodium hydroxide is replaced with the petrochem sodium hydroxide, as well as other bob chemicals. Just checked, the recipes with bio industries are overwritten. If that's not the case you might have to reset recipes.

[Arch666Angel]

Please update both mods

Petrochem
---0.1.9
-fixed an override issue
-moved liquifier mk2 to advanced chemistry tech
-added unlocks for liquifier mk3 and mk4

Refining
---0.3.4
-changed recipes for the liquifier to be more avaiable early game
-fixed the base game recipes for MK3 leaching plant and floatation cell

[mexmer]

Please update both mods

Petrochem
---0.1.9
-fixed an override issue
-moved liquifier mk2 to advanced chemistry tech
-added unlocks for liquifier mk3 and mk4

Refining
---0.3.4
-changed recipes for the liquifier to be more avaiable early game
-fixed the base game recipes for MK3 leaching plant and floatation cell

that was fast

is it possible to disable chemistry from bobs, which ads chemical furnace, that now does nothing? or are there dependencies, so it's still needed?

guess, it's more than 1 building to make carbon now

http://imgur.com/a/Gr8yy

[rkain101]

So I've been trying the Petrochem mod, and am greatly enjoying the added complexity, but I've hit a bit of a stumbling block: How do I craft lubricant? Electric Engines & blue belts still seem to need it, but I can't find any hint of its existence. I considered that it might be like plastic (where the crafting icon does not match the end product, something I hope you'll fix in a future version), but I don't see any fluid that might be lubricant, or that my assemblers recognize as lubricant.

It can be converted from mineral oil in a converter pipe for now, I will add a recipe for lubricant later on. Although the recipes should be changed to mineral oil anyway?

When I loaded up Factorio just now, both of these were true, so I no longer have a problem. Thank you. Not sure why it wasn't registering mineral oil as lubricant before...

[pederbonde]

After the update i had i new recipe for calcium chloride. Chrushed Stone + chloride so now it seems to work.

Also i want to suggest a plastic recipe.
Ethen + chlor -> EDC -> VCM -> PVC -> plastic

[Breith]

Added some missing localization strings, added some custom sounds, did some work on the barreling icons.

Speaking of localization, do you need people to translate your mods? I can easily translate them to French, if needed.

[Ratzap]

That is indeed a problem, I might have forgotten to copy the recipe override for the liquifier when changing the overrides from my handwritten ones to using the AWESOME! functions Exasperation provided me with. Will check and change that
The chain should be: Coal -> Crusher -> Crushed Coal -> Furnace -> Coke -> Liquifier -> Carbon
Coal -> Liquifier -> Carbon Dioxide --^

*sigh* I spent ages poring over the recipes, tech tree and even looking inside the mod files because I thought "people have been using this, something this basic to progress cannot be missing".

Nevermind. Built two liquidisers which now use basic circuits, one hand crafted mk2 assembler and I'm turning out blue circuits now. Ta

[aklesey1]

There is an global override in place so that every instance of bob sodium hydroxide is replaced with the petrochem sodium hydroxide, as well as other bob chemicals. Just checked, the recipes with bio industries are overwritten. If that's not the case you might have to reset recipes.

Recipe for fertilizer in bio industries not changed - still requires bob sodium hydroxide for fertilizer - only bob mo's and angel mods - no another mods
How to reset these recipies? Can u post screenshot where its changed?

[Arch666Angel]

that was fast

is it possible to disable chemistry from bobs, which ads chemical furnace, that now does nothing? or are there dependencies, so it's still needed?

guess, it's more than 1 building to make carbon now

http://imgur.com/a/Gr8yy

It's a bit more complex than before, I might have to tweak numbers a bit for that so you have to come up with a bit bigger setup, but that's basically it. The good point is that you probably want to do this anyway because it increases the fuel value of the coal.

When I loaded up Factorio just now, both of these were true, so I no longer have a problem. Thank you. Not sure why it wasn't registering mineral oil as lubricant before...

Might have been that you needed to reset recipes then so that the changes were registered with the save, but since it's working now everything is good and fine...I hope...

After the update i had i new recipe for calcium chloride. Chrushed Stone + chloride so now it seems to work.

Also i want to suggest a plastic recipe.
Ethen + chlor -> EDC -> VCM -> PVC -> plastic

There are two recipes now to make calcium chloride, one takes stone the other one crushed stone. I will probably remove the stone one and increase the amount of crushed stone taken, so you can sink a bit more into the recipe.
Thanks for the suggestion, might add that as a last tier recipe, but I probably also need another resin recipe then.

Added some missing localization strings, added some custom sounds, did some work on the barreling icons.

Speaking of localization, do you need people to translate your mods? I can easily translate them to French, if needed.

If you want to contribute localization for other languages you are more than welcome to do that, I will add it to the mods then.

*sigh* I spent ages poring over the recipes, tech tree and even looking inside the mod files because I thought "people have been using this, something this basic to progress cannot be missing".

Nevermind. Built two liquidisers which now use basic circuits, one hand crafted mk2 assembler and I'm turning out blue circuits now. Ta

Sry for the troubles, like I said I missed to copy over the one override to change the liquifier recipes.

[Arch666Angel]

There is an global override in place so that every instance of bob sodium hydroxide is replaced with the petrochem sodium hydroxide, as well as other bob chemicals. Just checked, the recipes with bio industries are overwritten. If that's not the case you might have to reset recipes.

Recipe for fertilizer in bio industries not changed - still requires bob sodium hydroxide for fertilizer - only bob mo's and angel mods - no another mods
How to reset these recipies? Can u post screenshot where its changed?

/c game.player.force.reset_recipes()

[aklesey1]

There is an global override in place so that every instance of bob sodium hydroxide is replaced with the petrochem sodium hydroxide, as well as other bob chemicals. Just checked, the recipes with bio industries are overwritten. If that's not the case you might have to reset recipes.

Recipe for fertilizer in bio industries not changed - still requires bob sodium hydroxide for fertilizer - only bob mo's and angel mods - no another mods
How to reset these recipies? Can u post screenshot where its changed?

/c game.player.force.reset_recipes()

No effect - may be i don't know how to activate console commands? i'm not there are must be one commant to activate console commands
In some cases, it is required to do? Why game can't do this automatically - may mod need script to reset recipes automatically?

[Arch666Angel]

There is an global override in place so that every instance of bob sodium hydroxide is replaced with the petrochem sodium hydroxide, as well as other bob chemicals. Just checked, the recipes with bio industries are overwritten. If that's not the case you might have to reset recipes.

Recipe for fertilizer in bio industries not changed - still requires bob sodium hydroxide for fertilizer - only bob mo's and angel mods - no another mods
How to reset these recipies? Can u post screenshot where its changed?

/c game.player.force.reset_recipes()

No affect - may i don't know how to activate console commands? i'm not there are must be one commant to activate console commands
In some cases, it is required to do? Why game can't do this automatically - may mod need script to reset recipes automatically?

recipe reset is normally done via migration script and I did include one in every version at the moment.

I might need to add Bio Industries to the optional dependecies for petrochem

This is what it looks like for me when starting a new game:

[aklesey1]

I'm not as stupid as you may think when i want to test changes in mods i'm starting new game? and i'm try to download new version from mod portal? i know that changed mods can cause big changes in recipies and in another aspects
And what that i see when starting new game with bob mods and angel mods

Sorry for big picture for now

I thought may it can be Bob's Revamp mod and deleted it but no effect
I want to check changes only on new game no old saves i swear

[pederbonde]

Hello again,
recipe for catalyst-aluminium seems to be gone in petrochem-solids, i dont know if this was intentional or not.
I still have some recipies that requires catalyst-aluminium.
I have not tested on a new game but i tried to reset recipies.

I will add it in manually for now.

[Arch666Angel]

See the first line in big yellow letters? Bio Industries is modifying the recipe after the Petrochem changes, so it maybe enough to add the bio industries dependecy to petrochem.

[aklesey1]

I have to apologize to you I'm probably boring you with all these overrides issues - as tester of your mods i'm trying to help u in development and gameplay/balancing questions
Its up to u how to how to deal with bio industries

I'm using this mod because i want to get wood from trees and getting coal from wood and that's all

[pederbonde]

removed to not confuse anyone

[Arch666Angel]

Hello again,
recipe for catalyst-aluminium seems to be gone in petrochem-solids, i dont know if this was intentional or not.
I still have some recipies that requires catalyst-aluminium.
I have not tested on a new game but i tried to reset recipies.

I will add it in manually for now.

You are right it is missing...I did things...probably... :/

Might be a good point to revise and think about the whole catalyst thingy: Idea is to get away from the fixed metal one and 4 different ones that will be scattered to the 4 tiers and use 2 metals according to their tier -> (tier 1 metal catalyst (take iron and copper, tier 2 takes Aluminium and silver, tier 3 takes titanium and cobalt, tier 4 takes tungsten and nickel)

Edit:
Petrochem
---0.1.10
-changed optional dependency on angels refining and bob plates to fixed dependency
-added optional dependency for bio industries and marathon to fix issues with load order and overrides
-added aluminium catalyst recipe back in

[orzelek]

Two "simple" questions:
1. If I'd like to start new game how long it could take to wait for smelting to replace processing?
2. Any plans for further changes to petrochem that could break the base built with it?

[Breith]

Added some missing localization strings, added some custom sounds, did some work on the barreling icons.

Speaking of localization, do you need people to translate your mods? I can easily translate them to French, if needed.

If you want to contribute localization for other languages you are more than welcome to do that, I will add it to the mods then.

Everything is under the "locale" folders? Should be fast enough to translate everything.