[MOD 0.18.X] Air Filtering

toudi · Post by **toudi** » Sat Aug 15, 2015 10:12 am

It unfortunatly seems that its the way how the game works. According to https://forums.factorio.com/wiki/inde ... #Evolution it calculates the evolution factor based on time, generated pollution and biter bases killed. It looks like it calulates the total sum of pollution being produced (and not the red thing touching enemy bases), so if the grand total of air filters and other machines becomes negative, the evolution will go down (unless you set the game.map_settings.enemy_evolution.pollution_factor to 0). the emission value of 0.5 equals 100 pollution (a fairly upgraded dytech machine). Thats my theory, so I think there is not much to be done here to stop evolution from going down.

Maybe the Devs should look into that so the engative pollution will not decrease evolution or they can think of some other way of calculating evolution factor.

Schorty · Post by **Schorty** » Sat Aug 15, 2015 10:15 am

Thanks for the info! I think, I can't do much about this, too.

I'm working on the mod right now. Maybe I'll try some things.

Schorty · Post by **Schorty** » Sun Aug 16, 2015 6:13 pm

Rebalanced the pollution reduction. Feedback on this is greatly appreciated

Senacharim wrote:Any chance of getting these to burn thru filters at a rate commensurate to the pollution level?

E.G. - In a heavily polluted area, it will use up a filter *very* quickly,
And if placed in an area with no pollution, it'll just not use up the filter at all.

I just released another mod for pollution detection: https://forums.factorio.com/forum/vie ... 93&t=14953
I think one could work with this

Devildog · Post by **Devildog** » Sun Sep 06, 2015 5:37 am

Nice new update!

Captain NeL · Post by **Captain NeL** » Sat Sep 19, 2015 7:34 pm

Yo-ho! Sorry, I forgot about forum. Here is all files, code is broken, sorry, use textures and locale.

Schorty · Post by **Schorty** » Sat Sep 19, 2015 8:08 pm

Ahoi Captain!

Thanks for the files. I already took them and released version 0.3.2! I find it amazing, how kind the factorio community is, with sharing and helping with such things!

Captain NeL · Post by **Captain NeL** » Fri Oct 09, 2015 1:07 pm

Yo-ho! I am sorry about locale - twelfth line.

air-filter-recycling=Переработка использованного фильтра

I missed one letter. (this is right version)

Schorty · Post by **Schorty** » Fri Oct 09, 2015 1:09 pm

I'll add this soon. Thanks buddy

Twisted_Code · Post by **Twisted_Code** » Fri Oct 16, 2015 5:02 pm

Schorty wrote:
FAQ
Q: How does it work?

A: The air filter machines (afm) reduce the pollution in the Chunk where they are build. You can see the chunk borders, by activating the "Tile grid" option in the debug menu (press F4 in game). Every Tick, they will reduce the pollution by 40. So, for your example, you would need 5 afm to equilize the pollution. As a rule of thumb, you should place the afms in a circle around your pollution producing factories, the avoid the spread of pollution.
To answer the "radius" question: Directly, the afms reduce the pollution only in their chunk. But you have to concider the way pollution works. Pollution will spread from chunk to chunk. It will "flatten" across the land. So if you have a chunk with many afms, this chunk will act like a "pollution sink". Not all pollution will get cleaned though.

you may want to provide a link to the post where you copied that answer from. Without context, any sentence which references the asker's example is likely to cause confusion.
On an unrelated note, what is the recipe for recycling filters? Because if it involves water, I have a rough idea how this mod could be expanded. If it doesn't involve water, maybe it should?

Xterminator · Post by **Xterminator** » Tue Nov 03, 2015 5:22 pm

Can't believe I haven't looked into this mod before now.

Very cool concept and see!s lie it could have even more potential in the future.
I am definitely doing a mod spotlight on this later today I think, if that is okay with you OP.

Schorty · Post by **Schorty** » Tue Nov 03, 2015 9:48 pm

Of course, I'm okay with that! But please notice, that there is some balancing work to do

toudi · Post by **toudi** » Mon Dec 28, 2015 3:08 pm

I'v found an exploit in the "Recycle used air filter" recipe:
It can accept productivity modules and produce additional air filters.
Tested with Bob's mod God modules. I'll have to try it with regular modules.

Kingoftime · Post by **Kingoftime** » Sun Feb 28, 2016 4:26 pm

Does anyone have this running on the steam release? id really love to use this mod again!

Kingoftime · Post by **Kingoftime** » Mon Feb 29, 2016 9:03 pm

when i try to put an air filter in, i get an error that says the filter cannot be smelted...

Schorty · Post by **Schorty** » Thu Mar 03, 2016 10:45 am

Hi,

I haven't had the time to test it. Might look into it soon™

Schorty · Post by **Schorty** » Thu Mar 03, 2016 1:06 pm

Hello again,

just tested and it works just fine. Do you have a savegame for me? The problem might come from converting from an old version of air-filtering. You could try to rebuild the already placed filtering machines. But I'd like to have a look myself, so if you can provide the save file..

Greetings,
Schorty

Kingoftime · Post by **Kingoftime** » Fri Mar 04, 2016 5:15 pm

Hello again, I tried using it again just for the sake of it and it is working now, it think it didn't work before because I cheated the item in without getting the research first? But using free play mode (which I have just discovered) allowed it to work 100%

Sorry for the bother. But thank you for the response and concern!

Schorty · Post by **Schorty** » Fri Mar 04, 2016 5:18 pm

No worries. I don't know why it hasn't worked. Maybe you added an old machine which should be converted. Who knows

jouki · Post by **jouki** » Mon Mar 07, 2016 11:56 pm

I took a look on mod and I'm sorry to say but it's definitely overpowered. I've tried change values to:

Filter values

and still is seems too much. Power usage changed to:

Power usage

Now I'd set the values (these should be balanced):
(these [pollution] numbers are huge to comparing with the rest of values from the game)

Final values

I've change recipes for recycling too because it doesn't seem logical recycling air filters by using a coal.

Recipes

I've improved graphics little bit but core image is taken from printeres so it's probably under license (I think)

so I guess it's only for personal use: prntscr . com/aciakb (I know, it's not accurate)
After these changes the game is smoothly playable with this mod imo

Now you have to think if you want to filter the air like "yes you can but you gonna need some space for these machines" and These machines are not imb4-Filters that can clear the air in a splitsecond.

Yinan · Post by **Yinan** » Tue Mar 08, 2016 6:29 am

jouki wrote:I've change recipes for recycling too because it doesn't seem logical recycling air filters by using a coal.

Ever heard of Carbon Filters?
And Coals main component is carbon. So you're basically changing the main filter-part (the carbon) when you recycle air filters. So using coal there is very logical.

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