[2.0.16] Inconsistent recycle times for recipes that yield multiple items

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[2.0.16] Inconsistent recycle times for recipes that yield multiple items

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  1. What did you do?
    Put concrete in a recycler (normal quality recycler, no modules, no beacons, normal quality concrete)
  2. What happened?
    It recycled 0.8 items per second
  3. What did you expect to happen instead?
    I expected it to recycle 8 items per second.
    Base recycling time should be craft_time/16/items_per_craft, however items_per_craft seems to be missing from the formula. So far concrete is the biggest offender, but it's consistent with other items like iron sticks and copper cable.
    I am speculating, but it looks like an oversight. Or is this intended behavior?
  4. Does it happen always, once, or sometimes?
    Always
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Re: [2.0.16] Inconsistent recycle times for recipes that yield multiple items

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Wanted to report this bug as well. Searched the forum, it's already reported, month ago without response. Bummer.
Yep, the recycling time should take into account how much product recipe is making. Concrete should recycle 10 times faster.
It's annoyng how much recyclers I must put to destroy concrete. One per every five scrap recyclers.
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Re: [2.0.16] Inconsistent recycle times for recipes that yield multiple items

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kitters wrote: Sun Dec 08, 2024 3:50 pmConcrete should recycle 10 times faster.
It's annoyng how much recyclers I must put to destroy concrete. One per every five scrap recyclers.
There is a little workaround for that currently, adding a middlestep to craft the concrete into hazard concrete. That in turn will recycle much much faster.

Similarly you can make steel chests out of steel because steel is slow to recycle, etc...
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Re: [2.0.16] Inconsistent recycle times for recipes that yield multiple items

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Damn, nice one! Thank you!
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Nice workaround there, thanks for the tip!
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Re: [2.0.16] Inconsistent recycle times for recipes that yield multiple items

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Seems fixed?

On 2.0.24 the recycler with no modules or boosting is recycling concrete in 1.25 seconds. Which is consistent with the wiki, which says time cost is recipe time divided by 16, times 2 because of recycler speed 0.5

Concrete recipe = 10 sec. 10/16 = 0.625. 0.625 * 2 = 1.25.

Which is what I get measuring the recycler with my stopwatch


The multiple output items factors into the amount of results of recycling not the time to recycle
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Re: [2.0.16] Inconsistent recycle times for recipes that yield multiple items

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Most recent change in quality affecting recipes was in 2.0.15 due to 118900 so it is unlikely to be already fixed.
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Re: [2.0.16] Inconsistent recycle times for recipes that yield multiple items

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evanrinehart wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2024 3:45 pm Seems fixed?

On 2.0.24 the recycler with no modules or boosting is recycling concrete in 1.25 seconds. Which is consistent with the wiki, which says time cost is recipe time divided by 16, times 2 because of recycler speed 0.5

Concrete recipe = 10 sec. 10/16 = 0.625. 0.625 * 2 = 1.25.

Which is what I get measuring the recycler with my stopwatch


The multiple output items factors into the amount of results of recycling not the time to recycle
Yes, it takes 1,25s. Or 0.8 item per second, as topic starter reported.
But they (and me) don't agree that it's as it should be. Since despite concrete recipe takes 10s, speed is 1 item/second. Which means recycle speed should be 8 item/second, not 0.8. It's natural to take into account the amont of product a recipe gives.
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Re: [2.0.16] Inconsistent recycle times for recipes that yield multiple items

Post by evanrinehart »

I'm confused about whether this is a bug report or a game balance suggestion. Was there a plan somewhere to do recycling like that?
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