Friday Facts #362 - Menu simulation, Spidertron, Ghost building, Confirm button

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Re: Friday Facts #362 - Menu simulation, Spidertron, Ghost building, Confirm button

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With the updated ghost building improvements, will we get a way to place ghost modules into buildings? As it is, the workflow is to build the building you want near you on the ground, add modules to it, then copy and paste that into position. It would be very nice if module ghosts could be placed directly into buildings.

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I like that the Start screen is finally getting some animation!
However it looks weird like it is currently now since you cannot really tell it apart from ingame intuitively. I know there is the logo and such, but still just deosn't feel like its a start screen.
Did you consider adding the "glass" effect from the research screen to it in the main menu?
This may make it a bit less noisy and tell it apart from ingame more naturally.

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AntiElitz wrote:
Fri Oct 30, 2020 6:25 pm
I like that the Start screen is finally getting some animation!
However it looks weird like it is currently now since you cannot really tell it apart from ingame intuitively. I know there is the logo and such, but still just deosn't feel like its a start screen.
Did you consider adding the "glass" effect from the research screen to it in the main menu?
This may make it a bit less noisy and tell it apart from ingame more naturally.

Quick mock up:
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+1

This looks really good :-)

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Koub wrote:
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ThunderFD wrote:
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Klonan wrote:
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AdamK wrote:
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Whta is 1.1 ETA?
It's either before or after Cyberpunk 2077 8-)
Before :)
So early next year? ;DD
Before 2028 :mrgreen:
No, I think he means before 2077, which is when Cyberpunk takes place. :kappa:
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Yay! more keyboard and less clicking!
Things just get better and better.

Also, finally the power pole connections: now I don't have to have all my powerpoles in a perfect grid.
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Not a fan of the new menu background.
I've always wanted a new menu background, but not like this. Maybe it looks better animated instead of as still.
I've liked the Wube logo ever since I've seen it, but the letters are so close together it's hard to read it as Wube and not... WWbe or something.
The drag, wire connections and confirm were much needed QoL features.

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Ooh, I've always loved when the main menu's of games had something going on in the background.
Would be kinda cute if it progressed through the different stages of the game based on your last save file, with the first version being just some grass and a forest

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Post by aebonyne »

Thanks, those QoL improvements look great!

The one QoL thing that's been bothering me is the organization of the logistics request screen. I try to keep my logistic requests organized, but they don't tend to stay very organized as the game goes on and my requests change. The search option on that screen helps a lot, but it really feels like it would make more sense if the requests were just organized the same way as the crafting screen, possibly even integrated with the crafting screen, although I think the subtle distinction between "recipes" and "items" makes that not actually make sense.

A less drastic change to help would be a button that auto-resorts the requests the same way the character inventory is sorted and/or the ability to drag/drop the requests to manually reorganize them.

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Post by ElderAxe »

All those QoL features are great. Thank you for your great work.

I hope that these new ghost replacing works for blueprints as well. At least in the force mode.

Like the previous messages said we have some great QoL mods around which I believe should be included in vanilla.

I see that Even Distribution is not mentioned. I find it very handy especially at the beginning of a new base.

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I get the idea that Factorio 1.1 will basically be a different game. Considering how much polish is going into it o_O

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God Bless.

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Post by CopperBoltwire »

Simply, Wube, Thanks for a great game and your continued hard work.

Actually, could you maybe do something greater with the "ending" of the game... Instead of just congrats and statistics, do something a bit more interesting?

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Re: Friday Facts #362 - Menu simulation, Spidertron, Ghost building, Confirm button

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Thanks for the facts. Also thanks for...allowing to disable the main menu simulation. I keep factorio open in background almost constantly and i'd hate to waste electricity on something i don't even look at.
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Typically the user sets up something in the game window and when they are done, they close it with E.
I always close my inventory with ESC,... guess i'll have to learn to do it "properly" :twisted: .
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Can I finally blueprint this in 1.1?
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Re: Friday Facts #362 - Menu simulation, Spidertron, Ghost building, Confirm button

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kizrak wrote:
Fri Oct 30, 2020 6:20 pm
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Thanks! 🧡
Agree! It's quite frustrating that the upgrade planner does an in place swap with a single construction bot but after marking for decon and placing a new ghost it sends two bots (one to decon and one to place) which could take ages in a bot or item starved network.

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Wow, this is amazing, thank you guys so much ^^

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Cgeta wrote:
Fri Oct 30, 2020 8:09 pm
Would be kinda cute if it progressed through the different stages of the game based on your last save file, with the first version being just some grass and a forest
That's certainly a neat feature of the Half Life and Portal games. It would be fitting for Factorio if there were a campaign focus, but given that the Free Play scenario is so sandbox-oriented, detecting and following progress in-game might feel more restrictive.

Unlike in those games, there's nothing story-driven to spoil with endgame technologies on display. Instead, they serve (as mentioned in the FFF) to demonstrate and inspire the player with technology available across all stages of the game.

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Post by ColonelSandersLite »

Once we have this logic in place, making blueprints preserve the wire connections could be implemented almost for free, so the game now supports it.
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I just want a belt full of baby spiders now


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