[0.15.9] Default save name overwrites different game

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[0.15.9] Default save name overwrites different game

Post by YokoZar » Sat May 06, 2017 3:35 am

This one has already cost tens of hours across multiple players. Anyone who has more than one game going at a time (say, a single and multiplayer save) is affected.

1) Start a new game in single or multiplayer, play for a while, save game with custom name, such as "Yokozar May Game".
2) Start a separate new game.
3) Save the game -- and note how default save name is "Yokozar May Game". If you click "save" it will overwrite a completely different game, the previous one you were playing.

What should instead happen is a generated name that doesn't conflict with anything, such as "New Game 4"

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Re: [0.15.9] Default save name overwrites different game

Post by Loewchen » Sat May 06, 2017 6:45 am

This is not a bug as it is working as intended, if you want it changed, make a development suggestion.

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Re: [0.15.9] Default save name overwrites different game

Post by Ambaire » Sun May 07, 2017 3:20 am

Loewchen wrote:This is not a bug as it is working as intended, if you want it changed, make a development suggestion.
I disagree.
YokoZar wrote:This one has already cost tens of hours across multiple players. Anyone who has more than one game going at a time (say, a single and multiplayer save) is affected.

1) Start a new game in single or multiplayer, play for a while, save game with custom name, such as "Yokozar May Game".
2) Start a separate new game.
3) Save the game -- and note how default save name is "Yokozar May Game". If you click "save" it will overwrite a completely different game, the previous one you were playing.

What should instead happen is a generated name that doesn't conflict with anything, such as "New Game 4"
Definitely a bug and I hope this gets looked at.

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Re: [0.15.9] Default save name overwrites different game

Post by YokoZar » Sun May 07, 2017 7:01 am

"Working as implemented" is the phrase we use for this sort of bug around the office.

I'm struggling to come up with any sort of scenario where most users, or indeed any user, would want to entirely erase a completely different game. I doubt this was "designed" this way.

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Re: [0.15.9] Default save name overwrites different game

Post by Ambaire » Sun May 07, 2017 7:34 am

YokoZar wrote:"Working as implemented" is the phrase we use for this sort of bug around the office.

I'm struggling to come up with any sort of scenario where most users, or indeed any user, would want to entirely erase a completely different game. I doubt this was "designed" this way.
Seems to be a case of mishandling the save game name variable.

The way I'd do it is tie the save game name to the map seed and if the seed changes, revert to default UNLESS there is a saved game with the same seed, in which case use that name instead. Might just be needless complexity, though.

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Re: [0.15.9] Default save name overwrites different game

Post by Bartimaeus » Thu May 11, 2017 3:21 pm

Nah... what makes sense is that if you load a game from a file ... your next save file name should point to that file ... but when you start a new game ... it should not point to any of the existing saves...
So load save_to from a save ... or initialise it with "New game" if started from a new game (simple as that)

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Re: [0.15.9] Default save name overwrites different game

Post by malventano » Wed May 17, 2017 7:27 am

Loewchen wrote:This is not a bug as it is working as intended, if you want it changed, make a development suggestion.
Just curious, but as a moderator, if something submitted as a bug actually falls under the development suggestion category, why wouldn't you simply move the post to that forum instead of into the 'not a bug' category? Instead, we have a UI issue that is glaring enough for some to consider it a bug (seriously, who would possibly intend for a user to be able to by default overwrite a save unrelated to their freshly started game, especially since there is no overwrite prompt?), but it ended up dead in the water since the OP was likely put off by the action enough to not bother pressing it further. In the end, everybody loses.
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Re: [0.15.9] Default save name overwrites different game

Post by rorror » Wed May 17, 2017 12:58 pm

malventano wrote:
Loewchen wrote:This is not a bug as it is working as intended, if you want it changed, make a development suggestion.
Just curious, but as a moderator, if something submitted as a bug actually falls under the development suggestion category, why wouldn't you simply move the post to that forum instead of into the 'not a bug' category? Instead, we have a UI issue that is glaring enough for some to consider it a bug (seriously, who would possibly intend for a user to be able to by default overwrite a save unrelated to their freshly started game, especially since there is no overwrite prompt?), but it ended up dead in the water since the OP was likely put off by the action enough to not bother pressing it further. In the end, everybody loses.
Agree with that, if not a bug, it should definityly end up on a ToDoList for version 0.16

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Re: [0.15.9] Default save name overwrites different game

Post by malventano » Wed May 17, 2017 6:25 pm

rorror wrote:
malventano wrote:
Loewchen wrote:This is not a bug as it is working as intended, if you want it changed, make a development suggestion.
Just curious, but as a moderator, if something submitted as a bug actually falls under the development suggestion category, why wouldn't you simply move the post to that forum instead of into the 'not a bug' category? Instead, we have a UI issue that is glaring enough for some to consider it a bug (seriously, who would possibly intend for a user to be able to by default overwrite a save unrelated to their freshly started game, especially since there is no overwrite prompt?), but it ended up dead in the water since the OP was likely put off by the action enough to not bother pressing it further. In the end, everybody loses.
Agree with that, if not a bug, it should definityly end up on a ToDoList for version 0.16
I've submitted it as a feature request here. Here's hoping it gets some traction.
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Re: [0.15.9] Default save name overwrites different game

Post by Gergely » Mon Mar 05, 2018 12:22 pm

This bug really needs to be fixed.

Unless the game intentionally trolls players with this malicious behavior.

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