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pY Petroleum Handling

Post by pyanodon » Wed Jan 02, 2019 1:06 pm

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  • Add several processes to extract and handle Crude oil.
    Add some new buildings and chains for each kind.
    Be able to work with Oil since the beginning.
    Adjusted some vanilla recipes to be compatible with this mod.
This mod is not compatible with Angel´s mods yet, Kingarthur may work over it.


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  • Factorio Version: 0.16+
  • Version: 1.0.0
  • License: CC BY-NC-ND 4.0
  • Tags: oil
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Post by pyanodon » Wed Jan 02, 2019 1:10 pm

Keep in mind that mod isnt supposed to deal with oil refining, Angel´s already did a good job on that part in his set of mods and we already had enough chemistry in other pymods :D The focus here is to explore and extract several ways and do basic refinement and handling.

This mod, due the initial idea, wont be as big as pyHT or pyRO, so expect a less complicated mod. Even the complexity will be in the interaction with other pymods.


As a start, id love to collect some ideas for this mod to maybe add in the ones i had. So..start mulling over
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Post by kingarthur » Wed Jan 02, 2019 2:20 pm

Well right now I'd suggest things like more oil sources. Oil sands, fracking, unconventional things like algae that crap oil/ other hydro carbons.

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Post by pyanodon » Wed Jan 02, 2019 2:24 pm

kingarthur wrote:
Wed Jan 02, 2019 2:20 pm
Well right now I'd suggest things like more oil sources. Oil sands, fracking, unconventional things like algae that crap oil/ other hydro carbons.
Thank you!

We will have shale, oil sands, fracking as a mega structure, the algae thing i dunno because its looks like more of a pyAL thing. But lets see! Thanks!
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Post by immortal_sniper1 » Wed Jan 02, 2019 5:08 pm

better ways to get solid fuel maybe some alternatives to nylon and plastics recipes
non organic fertilizer alternative ways to get many organic bompounds( not he complex ones)
so some propanes methane and benzene of the top of my head

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Post by pyanodon » Wed Jan 02, 2019 5:51 pm

immortal_sniper1 wrote:
Wed Jan 02, 2019 5:08 pm
better ways to get solid fuel maybe some alternatives to nylon and plastics recipes
non organic fertilizer alternative ways to get many organic bompounds( not he complex ones)
so some propanes methane and benzene of the top of my head
Organic stuff are a thing for pyAL. Solid fuel is ok, can be made, even i think we have tons of alternative stuff in pymods to burn with better efficiency.

plastic ok too. About propanes and methane...well, i dont wanna go deep into petrochemistry as i explaned, but i have plans for nafta.
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Post by immortal_sniper1 » Wed Jan 02, 2019 6:30 pm

pyanodon wrote:
Wed Jan 02, 2019 5:51 pm
immortal_sniper1 wrote:
Wed Jan 02, 2019 5:08 pm
better ways to get solid fuel maybe some alternatives to nylon and plastics recipes
non organic fertilizer alternative ways to get many organic bompounds( not he complex ones)
so some propanes methane and benzene of the top of my head
Organic stuff are a thing for pyAL. Solid fuel is ok, can be made, even i think we have tons of alternative stuff in pymods to burn with better efficiency.

plastic ok too. About propanes and methane...well, i dont wanna go deep into petrochemistry as i explaned, but i have plans for nafta.
Naphtha* since the one you mentioned is a usa organization
also nylon is more important then plastic tho nylon is plastic
well we can make plastic from nylon but not the other way around
``` About propanes and methane...well, ``` they are alredy present in your mods they might come as distilation( cracking products from other hydrocarbs)

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Post by pyanodon » Thu Jan 03, 2019 4:31 pm

We have oil sands :D

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Re: pY Petroleum Handling

Post by kingarthur » Thu Jan 03, 2019 4:34 pm

pyanodon wrote:
Thu Jan 03, 2019 4:31 pm
We have oil sands :D

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Post by aklesey1 » Thu Jan 03, 2019 4:59 pm

pyanodon wrote:
Thu Jan 03, 2019 4:31 pm
We have oil sands :D

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Ow yeah looks cool
Oil sands were presented in some of creation from MadClown01 for angel's mods i seen it

Pyandon do u remember mineral oil from angel's petrochem? can it have any uses?

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Post by pyanodon » Thu Jan 03, 2019 5:34 pm

no uses for mineral oil from my side.
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Post by immortal_sniper1 » Thu Jan 03, 2019 6:14 pm

pyanodon wrote:
Thu Jan 03, 2019 5:34 pm
no uses for mineral oil from my side.
make lube from it

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Re: pY Petroleum Handling

Post by aklesey1 » Sat Jan 05, 2019 6:28 pm

Some wishes and questions for PYPH:
1) More ways to get methane
2) Way to get methanol from methane
3) Planes for another base nayral gases like ethane, butane, pentane, propane
4) Tell about new ways to get olefins and petroleum gas
5) Tell about new ways to get and use tall oil
6) Will we need more nichrome? I would like to see some relief and if nichrome is often used that's not amuse
7) Role of disesel, gasoline and light oil in PYPH?
8) Will we have way to get some more aceton and phenol
9) Do u have plans for some types of resins and rubbers? Ways to get synthetic glass?
10) Can we get petroleum coke - yeah i like coke+coal chain in PYRO - u did big work but now i wnat to know about OIL content

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Post by immortal_sniper1 » Sat Jan 05, 2019 7:55 pm

aklesey1 wrote:
Sat Jan 05, 2019 6:28 pm
Some wishes and questions for PYPH:
1) More ways to get methane
2) Way to get methanol from methane
3) Planes for another base nayral gases like ethane, butane, pentane, propane
4) Tell about new ways to get olefins and petroleum gas
5) Tell about new ways to get and use tall oil
6) Will we need more nichrome? I would like to see some relief and if nichrome is often used that's not amuse
7) Role of disesel, gasoline and light oil in PYPH?
8) Will we have way to get some more aceton and phenol
9) Do u have plans for some types of resins and rubbers? Ways to get synthetic glass?
10) Can we get petroleum coke - yeah i like coke+coal chain in PYRO - u did big work but now i wnat to know about OIL content
methane can be made from syngas

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Post by aklesey1 » Sat Jan 05, 2019 8:41 pm

immortal_sniper1 wrote:
Sat Jan 05, 2019 7:55 pm
aklesey1 wrote:
Sat Jan 05, 2019 6:28 pm
Some wishes and questions for PYPH:
1) More ways to get methane
2) Way to get methanol from methane
3) Planes for another base nayral gases like ethane, butane, pentane, propane
4) Tell about new ways to get olefins and petroleum gas
5) Tell about new ways to get and use tall oil
6) Will we need more nichrome? I would like to see some relief and if nichrome is often used that's not amuse
7) Role of disesel, gasoline and light oil in PYPH?
8) Will we have way to get some more aceton and phenol
9) Do u have plans for some types of resins and rubbers? Ways to get synthetic glass?
10) Can we get petroleum coke - yeah i like coke+coal chain in PYRO - u did big work but now i wnat to know about OIL content
methane can be made from syngas
Yes yes with nickel - but there're must another ways - enough with me and the fact that nickel is spent on nichrome tons

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Post by pyanodon » Tue Jan 08, 2019 11:36 am

aklesey1 wrote:
Sat Jan 05, 2019 6:28 pm
Some wishes and questions for PYPH:
1) More ways to get methane
2) Way to get methanol from methane
3) Planes for another base nayral gases like ethane, butane, pentane, propane
4) Tell about new ways to get olefins and petroleum gas
5) Tell about new ways to get and use tall oil
6) Will we need more nichrome? I would like to see some relief and if nichrome is often used that's not amuse
7) Role of disesel, gasoline and light oil in PYPH?
8) Will we have way to get some more aceton and phenol
9) Do u have plans for some types of resins and rubbers? Ways to get synthetic glass?
10) Can we get petroleum coke - yeah i like coke+coal chain in PYRO - u did big work but now i wnat to know about OIL content
1 - No, its a thing for pyAL....one day.
2 - Same as above
3 - No, Angels already did a good job on it. We wont focus on chemistry here, i will try to keep oil processing as low as possible, just enough to run a py base.
4 - Sure it will have.
5 - I will think about tall oil yet, but for a rule, all fluids of this mod can be burn to make combustion mixtures.
6 - Yes.Nichrome, Nickel, Chromium and Nexelit are good catalysts.
7 - Basically as fuel to generate energy and make buildings run.
8 - Probably. Indirectly
9 - No glass, but rubber we may have as base ingredient.
10 -Oh yeah.
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Post by aklesey1 » Tue Jan 08, 2019 1:03 pm

U seriously think that oil industry can't get to us ways top produce methane and methanol? - u're dissapointing me pyanodon but okey i must agree with ur opinion ;) :)
Waiting for news from development
3 - No, Angels already did a good job on it. We wont focus on chemistry here, i will try to keep oil processing as low as possible, just enough to run a py base.
I must say i don't using PY mods with angel mods - all my mods becomes are huge rude mash of turmoil :roll: and achievements in the field of petrochemistry Arch666Angel for me no longer make sense
May be if someone can make addon for PYPH mod and add additional series of recipe for basic natural gas processes

I hope PYAL will be very big and will be rich in details and rich in a variety of ways with different resource interactions 8-)
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Post by pyanodon » Tue Jan 08, 2019 1:10 pm

YEah...i hope im that rich in time. :D
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Post by aklesey1 » Tue Jan 08, 2019 1:15 pm

pyanodon wrote:
Tue Jan 08, 2019 1:10 pm
YEah...i hope im that rich in time. :D
I don't want to offend u, but if you look closely in the mod, we can see some creative gaps that another author can fill in.
For example i hope u'll create some mod for intermediate components for machines in factorio - just like in Xander mod - look for detailed study of electronics, belts, engines, for electric poles and some another points
U did interesting change with adding aramid aahahahahhhh serious step for realism

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Post by pyanodon » Tue Jan 08, 2019 1:27 pm

My goal was never realism or this game would be boring as fuck ehehe. If people complained so much with the parts of a circuit board in pyHT, imagine if they discover that chain would be 3X bigger to be a bit closer to a realistic setup. There´s a small line between fun and tedious and i dont want my suite to enter much into the tedious area.

Also, there´s always creative gaps in mods. We are usually a single person which make mods in free time and for fun. It´s impossible to cover all possibilities. If someone wanna go really deep into petrochemicals industry, feel free. I think what Angels did was the limit, things deeper than that (and believe me, its a lot deeper) will turn this game into an advanced chemistry class.
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