[MOD 0.16] Bulk Rail Loaders

mrvn · Post by **mrvn** » Mon Apr 09, 2018 1:50 pm

Jürgen Erhard wrote:
mrvn wrote:
Therax wrote:v0.4.0 is now available. BRLs are now built as independent entities, rather than as overlays to rails. This is a major change, and is likely to expose some weird cases especially with existing blueprints. I've done my best to search for and update blueprints in your worlds, but I expect there to be hidden bugs. Enjoy!
Does that mean I have to build them instead of rails? Or still place them over rails but they are more like train stops that simply function when attached to a rail?
You have to build them instead of rails, placing them over existing rails doesn't work anymore (spent a few minutes trying the old way on this new map before I found this change).

Any way to make them into a fast replace group so they replace rails when placed over them?

Loaders and unloaders should for sure be in a fast replace group so one can place on over the other. Hopefully with less black box magic in the BRLs now that can work and transfere the buffered contents between the buildings on replace.

Jürgen Erhard · Post by **Jürgen Erhard** » Tue Apr 10, 2018 12:55 am

Crash, slightly shorted (dupes removed, marked with […]) because forum size limit. All mods current (and lots of them

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Error while running event railloader::on_marked_for_deconstruction (ID 20)
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Error while running event railloader::on_marked_for_deconstruction (ID 20)
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Therax · Post by **Therax** » Tue Apr 10, 2018 6:38 am

mrvn wrote:Any way to make them into a fast replace group so they replace rails when placed over them?

Loaders and unloaders should for sure be in a fast replace group so one can place on over the other. Hopefully with less black box magic in the BRLs now that can work and transfere the buffered contents between the buildings on replace.

I can't see any way to fast-replace rails with BRLs. Because of the grid alignment issues and since rails are 2x2, there is never just 1 rail entity to be fast-replaced.

Replacing loaders with unloaders would require quite a lot of "black box magic." Containers (chests) in Factorio are non-directional and can't be rotated either on the map or in the cursor. Since BRLs are directional, a different type of entity is used as a placement proxy, and you're then fast-replacing a container with some other kind of entity, so fast replace puts all the items in the chest into the player's inventory, and spills the rest. It's not impossible to work around, but it would involve storing the contents temporarily in another in-world inventory, and definitely a lot more complex than simply adding a couple of fast_replaceable_group prototype entries.

Jürgen Erhard wrote:Crash, slightly shorted (dupes removed, marked with […]) because forum size limit. All mods current (and lots of them ).

Aha, infinite recursion! Thanks for the report, v0.4.1 is now available with a fix.

mrvn · Post by **mrvn** » Tue Apr 10, 2018 8:49 am

Therax wrote:
mrvn wrote:Any way to make them into a fast replace group so they replace rails when placed over them?

Loaders and unloaders should for sure be in a fast replace group so one can place on over the other. Hopefully with less black box magic in the BRLs now that can work and transfere the buffered contents between the buildings on replace.
I can't see any way to fast-replace rails with BRLs. Because of the grid alignment issues and since rails are 2x2, there is never just 1 rail entity to be fast-replaced.

Replacing loaders with unloaders would require quite a lot of "black box magic." Containers (chests) in Factorio are non-directional and can't be rotated either on the map or in the cursor. Since BRLs are directional, a different type of entity is used as a placement proxy, and you're then fast-replacing a container with some other kind of entity, so fast replace puts all the items in the chest into the player's inventory, and spills the rest. It's not impossible to work around, but it would involve storing the contents temporarily in another in-world inventory, and definitely a lot more complex than simply adding a couple of fast_replaceable_group prototype entries.

A splitter can replace 2 belt segments so I wouldn't think replacing 2 or 3 rails should be impossible.

Bummer that chests can't be rotated. Why does factorio have so many arbitrary limits on prototypes?

Therax · Post by **Therax** » Tue Apr 10, 2018 11:00 pm

mrvn wrote:A splitter can replace 2 belt segments so I wouldn't think replacing 2 or 3 rails should be impossible.

Belt->Splitter is a special case in the core engine added in 0.16, and as far as I know is the only example of fast replacing entities with another that has a different sized collision box.

fflaguna · Post by **fflaguna** » Thu Apr 12, 2018 2:23 am

For the past 3 days, I have been periodically getting this error message, which boots me back to the main menu (and loses progress since last save):

The Factorio log only gives this message:

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3640.570 Error MainLoop.cpp:1029: Exception at tick 11720100: Error while running event railloader::on_nth_tick(60)
invalid key to 'next'

After being booted to the main menu and having to reload my save, it eventually happened again, but a minute or two later than before:

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 223.121 Error MainLoop.cpp:1029: Exception at tick 11728680: Error while running event railloader::on_nth_tick(60)
invalid key to 'next'

I don't know why this is happening. Here is a list of mods I have installed:

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  49.826 Checksum for script __FactorioMaps__/control.lua: 2093853768
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  50.000 Checksum for script __Natural_Evolution_Buildings__/control.lua: 273032841
  50.014 Checksum for script __Rampant__/control.lua: 1596625009
  50.015 Checksum for script __bobplates__/control.lua: 2137047030
  50.027 Checksum for script __rso-mod__/control.lua: 2863775495
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~~Perhaps it's an interaction with "TimeTools" which lets you change the pace of the game?~~ But I have it set to default 60 fps/ups, and this error message happens whether I'm fast-forwarding or not. The exact moment when the error message is triggered seems to be slightly random, give or take a minute or two. When I reload saves, it never happens at exactly the same "elapsed game time" or the same "time elapsed since loading the save". But whenever this bug happens, usually it comes in clusters where it happens one or two dozen times before it goes away for many hours.

I had this bug before the most recent patch (1-2 days ago), then auto-patched to most recent version, and today again I have experienced the bug on the most recent version.

Let me know if I can get you more info to help you narrow this down!

Therax · Post by **Therax** » Thu Apr 12, 2018 7:24 am

fflaguna wrote:The Factorio log only gives this message:
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3640.570 Error MainLoop.cpp:1029: Exception at tick 11720100: Error while running event railloader::on_nth_tick(60)
invalid key to 'next'

That's a remarkably terse error message. I've reported that part as a core bug.

I was able to track down and fix a relatively obscure case where this error could happen. Could you try v0.4.2 and let me know if you're still experiencing problems?

fflaguna · Post by **fflaguna** » Thu Apr 12, 2018 1:12 pm

Just now, before updating to today's Bulk Rail Loader version, I used an old save file to reproduce that error. It occurred within five minutes of me loading that save.

Then I updated to the new BRL version you just released today. I loaded the same old save file to see if the error happened, three times. It didn't happen any of the the three times.

It appears the issue may have been fixed! Thank you, and I hope this helps you out further.

Solarwuff · Post by **Solarwuff** » Mon Apr 16, 2018 5:39 pm

First off i have to say after 5min i am already in love with this mod

is it posible to give this mod support for the Hard crafting mod

ddpruitt · Post by **ddpruitt** » Sun Apr 29, 2018 11:27 pm

I Love the mod, it is really cleaning up my rail stations.

I have found though that if I put an unloader down with a Blueprint I can't remove it, I get a message "This cannot be mined". Any thoughts on how I should debug it?

Thanks,

Therax · Post by **Therax** » Mon Apr 30, 2018 12:36 am

ddpruitt wrote:I Love the mod, it is really cleaning up my rail stations.

I have found though that if I put an unloader down with a Blueprint I can't remove it, I get a message "This cannot be mined". Any thoughts on how I should debug it?

Thanks,

Try clicking on the edge of the loader, not the rails.

ddpruitt · Post by **ddpruitt** » Mon Apr 30, 2018 2:23 am

Therax wrote:
ddpruitt wrote:I Love the mod, it is really cleaning up my rail stations.

I have found though that if I put an unloader down with a Blueprint I can't remove it, I get a message "This cannot be mined". Any thoughts on how I should debug it?

Thanks,
Try clicking on the edge of the loader, not the rails.

I can't deconstruct nor select the unloader:

As a work around I'm building my stations then adding the unloaders afterwards. This is the blueprint:

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Therax · Post by **Therax** » Mon Apr 30, 2018 5:14 am

ddpruitt wrote:I can't deconstruct nor select the unloader:
As a work around I'm building my stations then adding the unloaders afterwards. This is the blueprint:

I'm afraid I can't reproduce your issue using that blueprint string. Can you post a mod list or possibly a saved game?

mrvn · Post by **mrvn** » Mon Apr 30, 2018 9:13 am

I had the same problem a few times. Placing an unloader over the remains and then deconstructing it works.

ddpruitt · Post by **ddpruitt** » Mon Apr 30, 2018 12:49 pm

Therax wrote:
ddpruitt wrote:I can't deconstruct nor select the unloader:
As a work around I'm building my stations then adding the unloaders afterwards. This is the blueprint:
I'm afraid I can't reproduce your issue using that blueprint string. Can you post a mod list or possibly a saved game?

Thanks Therax, here is the saved game where I started having problems:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1luE7MT ... sp=sharing

Its a creative world with the following mods:

base
Aircraft
angelsaddons-warehouses
auto-research
beltSorter
BigDrills
Bottleneck
creative-mode-fix
Electric Furnaces
EvoGUI
FactorioMaps
far-reach
FARL
Foreman
helmod
Inventory Sensor
LandMover
LoaderRedux
LogisticTrainNetwork
manual-inventory-sort
miniloader
Orbital Ion Cannon
quick-start
railloader
recursive-blueprints
reverse-factory
Roboport Recharge Upgrade
rso-mod
upgrade-planner

I tried doing what mrvn said to do but I couldn't place anything over the unloader.

Therax · Post by **Therax** » Tue May 01, 2018 1:50 am

ddpruitt wrote:Its a creative world with the following mods:

creative-mode-fix

At a guess you're running into this bug in Creative Mode, where the "Instant Deconstruction" cheat raises some, but not all, of the necessary events when it destroys entities. This prevents the scripting in Miniloader and Bulk Rail Loaders from being executed. I'd been hoping Mooncat would fix this bug on his end, but I guess I'll have to figure out a workaround instead.

Try 0.4.3.

ddpruitt · Post by **ddpruitt** » Tue May 01, 2018 12:53 pm

Therax wrote:
ddpruitt wrote:Its a creative world with the following mods:

creative-mode-fix
At a guess you're running into this bug in Creative Mode, where the "Instant Deconstruction" cheat raises some, but not all, of the necessary events when it destroys entities. This prevents the scripting in Miniloader and Bulk Rail Loaders from being executed. I'd been hoping Mooncat would fix this bug on his end, but I guess I'll have to figure out a workaround instead.

Try 0.4.3.

That worked! Thanks!

Islandir · Post by **Islandir** » Wed May 09, 2018 4:50 am

It seems that since the recent updates of factorio, Bulk Rail Loader is broken as I cannot anymore place the unloader or loaders on the rails. It is red all the time looking like a collision conflict with the rail

Edit 1: Found out that by not laying the rails down but leaving a hole the size of the loader/unloader then I can place it but it used to be it could be placed on the rails which does not work anymore

Therax · Post by **Therax** » Wed May 09, 2018 5:25 am

Islandir wrote:Edit 1: Found out that by not laying the rails down but leaving a hole the size of the loader/unloader then I can place it but it used to be it could be placed on the rails which does not work anymore

Yes, this changed in 0.4.0, to help make building BRLs with construction robots less finicky.

Islandir · Post by **Islandir** » Wed May 09, 2018 4:40 pm

makes sense. Thanks

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