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by Premu
Sat May 23, 2020 9:15 am
Forum: Mechanical Throughput Magic (circuit-free)
Topic: 6:1 and 1:6 blue belt balancers for train stations
Replies: 11
Views: 309

Re: 6:1 and 1:6 blue belt balancers for train stations

Those are my most compact designs for: -unloader which works only for fully consumed belt -unloader which works even with unevenly consumed belt -loader which works only for compressed belt -loader which works even with uncompressed belt but they are all so simple, I'm probably not the first one to...
by Premu
Fri May 22, 2020 11:16 pm
Forum: Railway Setups
Topic: "Train Balanced" station with several unloading/loading platforms
Replies: 0
Views: 88

"Train Balanced" station with several unloading/loading platforms

For my sub-factories which need a lot of a specific material, I use a trainstation with several unloading "platforms" which are all named equally. So my delivery trains will be distributed between those and supply all production lines. Additionally, I have a specific waiting area for each platform, ...
by Premu
Fri May 22, 2020 9:47 am
Forum: Combinator Creations
Topic: Belt Contamination Sensor
Replies: 18
Views: 344

Re: Belt Contamination Sensor

Why wouldnt you just have the alarm go off when something is in the chest? So the alarm could only turn on for the first time when something get into the chest. The chest itself could only handle binary state (empty -> non-empty) for one time. We may use memory to remember the previous state of the...
by Premu
Thu May 21, 2020 10:51 pm
Forum: Combinator Creations
Topic: Belt Contamination Sensor
Replies: 18
Views: 344

Re: Belt Contamination Sensor

I think the easiest solution is to not tie the inserter to the clock at all. Let it clean up the belt as fast as possible.

The clock itself can be used to stop the alarm after 10 seconds.
by Premu
Thu May 21, 2020 4:54 pm
Forum: Mechanical Throughput Magic (circuit-free)
Topic: 6:1 and 1:6 blue belt balancers for train stations
Replies: 11
Views: 309

Re: 6:1 and 1:6 blue belt balancers for train stations

Your have no safeguard for unbalanced lane consumption in your design. Do you have that downstream somewhere? Each crate's content will end up 50% on the left and 50% on the right lane. That is ensured by the three splitters right after the inserters. So even if only one lane is pulled away it will...
by Premu
Thu May 21, 2020 4:09 pm
Forum: Combinator Creations
Topic: Belt Contamination Sensor
Replies: 18
Views: 344

Re: Belt Contamination Sensor

sfreeddom wrote:
Thu May 21, 2020 3:47 pm

But the problem is that alarm would come very short and you could barely notice that belt is contaminated.
You could trigger the alarm in case the chest isn't empty. So the alarm will endure after the cleanup.
by Premu
Thu May 21, 2020 2:12 pm
Forum: Combinator Creations
Topic: Belt Contamination Sensor
Replies: 18
Views: 344

Re: Belt Contamination Sensor

That's a simple but highly useful creation.

You could pair it with an automatic belt cleaner which is equally simple - a filtered inserter using a blacklist to remove all "junk" from a belt which doesn't belong there.
by Premu
Thu May 21, 2020 12:51 pm
Forum: General discussion
Topic: 0.17 / 0.18 - What to put on the main bus?
Replies: 22
Views: 991

Re: 0.17 / 0.18 - What to put on the main bus?

But for eg gears it is the other way around. So why not produce them centralized? It would require less throughput on the bus. Still we don't put gears on the belt. Why not? The reason I don't do this is that there are many products which need both gears and iron plates as input. If I put both of t...
by Premu
Thu May 21, 2020 12:34 pm
Forum: Mechanical Throughput Magic (circuit-free)
Topic: 6:1 and 1:6 blue belt balancers for train stations
Replies: 11
Views: 309

Re: 6:1 and 1:6 blue belt balancers for train stations

... why not combine a 4 lane and a 2 lane balancer - and use the different belt speeds of yellow, red and blue belts to achieve a balanced pull? ... That caught my eye. The reason why not to use different belt speeds to achieve ratio splitting or ratio pulling is because it only works if the input/...
by Premu
Thu May 21, 2020 12:31 am
Forum: Gameplay Help
Topic: belts, chests or bots for short-mid-long distance ?
Replies: 2
Views: 145

Re: belts, chests or bots for short-mid-long distance ?

There is no definite answer. Let's check the pros and cons of each method: Trains: ++ massive capacity + capacity can be easily extended by adding more trains - needs extensive infrastructure around it (stations and rails) - not feasible to use for direct insertion to consumers Belts: + Easy to hand...
by Premu
Wed May 20, 2020 10:03 pm
Forum: Mechanical Throughput Magic (circuit-free)
Topic: 6:1 and 1:6 blue belt balancers for train stations
Replies: 11
Views: 309

Re: 6:1 and 1:6 blue belt balancers for train stations

Using six chests means that I need a train unloading or loading at the station only 50% of the time to get the actual throughput to fill a blue belt. With only four belts you need to achieve a ratio of 75%. That makes train schedules more robust. Also, most 1:3 balancers are wider than 3 squares. Th...
by Premu
Wed May 20, 2020 7:32 pm
Forum: Mechanical Throughput Magic (circuit-free)
Topic: 6:1 and 1:6 blue belt balancers for train stations
Replies: 11
Views: 309

6:1 and 1:6 blue belt balancers for train stations

I was experimenting a lot with different designs for loading and unloading from trains to belts. I use a side of a train to fill up a single blue belt. My requirements for the balancers is: - They should fill up/draw from each chest equally - They should lead to a fully compressed belt (for unloadin...
by Premu
Wed May 20, 2020 6:51 pm
Forum: Mechanical Throughput Magic (circuit-free)
Topic: A comparison of lane balancers
Replies: 10
Views: 2459

Re: A comparison of lane balancers

I had the same issue to solve some time ago and came to my own solution which doesn't need any underground belts:

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It's actually pretty simply and even nice and symmetric.
by Premu
Wed May 20, 2020 6:31 pm
Forum: General discussion
Topic: Why launch a rocket without a satellite?
Replies: 9
Views: 407

Re: Why launch a rocket without a satellite?

You could also put some junk into the rocket as an expensive way to get rid of it. ;)
by Premu
Mon Jan 20, 2020 4:59 pm
Forum: Gameplay Help
Topic: Circuit networks reads unreliably from train content
Replies: 12
Views: 497

Re: Circuit networks reads unreliably from train content

Could it be that your copper inserter is not connected properly to the station?

If it doesn't receive any signal for copper at all it is assumed to be 0, so it will be always active.
by Premu
Sun Jan 19, 2020 7:14 pm
Forum: Gameplay Help
Topic: Balancer 1:12
Replies: 4
Views: 306

Re: Balancer 1:12

Is it for quick loading on a train? For these I have this 1:6 Splitter for one sided loading. You could simply use two of those to get 1:12 if necessary somehow. 20200119200922_1.jpg 0eNqdmd1uozAQhV9l5WtYefwLvEYvV9UqSa2utQQQmKpRlHdfkrTbqHHEzFyhkPhjPB7POSZHsW3nMIyxS6I5irjru0k0v45iiq/dpj3fS4chiEbEFPai...
by Premu
Sun Jan 19, 2020 2:14 pm
Forum: General discussion
Topic: Smallest reliable production time
Replies: 22
Views: 1502

Re: Smallest reliable production time

This time bulk is even 26% faster, probably because I used 6 inserters per assembler. Were there supposed to be any pictures in that post, because i don't see any? 26% sounds like far too much. I mean, the recipe progress needs to be calculated every tick independantly of the recipe length, so unle...
by Premu
Sun Jan 19, 2020 1:51 pm
Forum: Gameplay Help
Topic: Unwanted items on belt
Replies: 3
Views: 222

Re: Unwanted items on belt

In most cases the reason for "impure" belts is that something is messed up. ;) It can easily happen while setting up the belts by misplacing one belt which leads to an unwanted merge or an imporperl belt loading. You might even have corrected that yet, but just oversaw that some copper plates sneake...
by Premu
Sun Jan 19, 2020 12:07 pm
Forum: Gameplay Help
Topic: Multiple train on a single stop?
Replies: 10
Views: 665

Re: Multiple train on a single stop?

For using train stations for different kind of wares the simplest way to achieve it I can think of is to use a bot based unloading system. Just load everything into active provider chests, and have active requester chests nearby specifically for the goods you need. The bots can do the sorting for yo...
by Premu
Sun Jan 19, 2020 12:10 am
Forum: General discussion
Topic: Smallest reliable production time
Replies: 22
Views: 1502

Re: Smallest reliable production time

Inserters are naive. Using two inserters to pull from the same source will *not* double your input speed because they will mostly just interfere with each other. You have to use circuits (or stack size override) to force the inserters to pull from the source in alternating order. For examples i rec...

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