Oh, okay then. Yeah, systems-wise SA brings a lot of new fun stuff, totally agreed.
And yeah, youremember correctly, I did perefer vulc, and left gleba for the end. I didn't like the continuos flow stuff, absolutely.

No need to throw around empty accusations. There is nothing complicated in spoilage. There is literally is not even a way to do JIT-logistics cross-planetary for them, where the real complexity would be at.
I shut down gleba production completely, and enable it on-demand, that is more complex than ...

Eh, I would not say that there is any sort of consensus of course, or "people drop the game because of gleba", that would be absurd/in bad faith, imo as well.
I just find it interesting to observe, that there is indeed an observable difference between the planets.

It is the most difficult(in ...

the impression of a consensus when it's not the case.



Eh, I would not say that there is any sort of consensus of course, or "people drop the game because of gleba", that would be absurd/in bad faith, imo as well.
I just find it interesting to observe, that there is indeed an observable ...

"Statistics don't say anything, but cherrypicking random discussions says a lot", can't make this up

I saw interesting numbers posted in the other thread:


The steam achievements speak 1000 words about gleba.

Visit Vulcanus: 5.0%
Research with metallargics: 4.4%

People who landed on vulcanus and didn't finish it this run or in the future = 1 - 4.4/5.0 = 12%

Visit Fulgora: 4.3%
Research with ...

There is no reason not to install steam, especially seeing how you can buy the game directly from the devs, and still enjoy steams comfort.
It's an opinion thing, not an indicator of anything. Of course, it would be way nicer to have stats across all platforms, but that's not gonna happen

Interesting stats, sure would not have expected that big of a difference.
I wonder if/what 2.1 will do with gleba. I still have not had the urge to touch SA after reaching Aquilo, uncontrollable gleba-nauvis logistics are still the biggest factor right after general annoyance of Gleba.

This has been discussed to death here, if anyone is interested in arguments/ideas to be had:
viewtopic.php?t=82060

It was implemented, because speedrunners pre-shipped rockets, bulllets and all the other good stuff and won the game on the final beta test. Stack sizes for ammo were cut in half and shipping made expensiv(er) than it was.

Yes, I just tested. They wander around and don't do anything. Not sure if it was always like this.

Yeah, I am convinced as well that this is the reason asteroid crushing rerolls are still in, so that ships can reliably craft quality ammo for the flying factory aspect.
The dropping from orbit is an unintended side-effect.

Glad that shipping ammo to platform, or asteroid storage did not get hammered, and we get a lot of diversity there.

We already have them in the form of tanks. It's 2x3, blueprintable, and placeable on even non-grid locations. It can defend itself with PLD. It can even be carried over belts. It has middle-click per-cell item pinning and expandable inventory space. It can request items and trash unrequested ...

Containers with 2x2 footprint trivialize a lot of the current builds.
I have played in 1.0 with the containers in space exploration, and basically as soon as you get 2x2, any covarex-like setup becomes trivial, especially with "trash all unrequested". It would make neater-looking malls though :D

Yes, that is one downside. However, I use a decider combnator to "lock" a recipe for a while, so that is minimized. I think one could time it to run a specific amount of cycles, if one counts ticks needed for 1 run.

I have a similar approach which I find absolutely great. Not sure if/how it would hold up to promemethium, since I have not bothered with it.


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Quality is on Gleba, because Gleba would have even less rewards playing it.
Literally that simple. Also you could play for even longer, without having to touch Gleba. Same for the t3 module rebalance, where 2/3 suddenly need Gleba to function, and the productivity module is somehow not related to ...

Seeing as how everything got nerfed to the ground which was "playing the game wrong" directly in the beta, and this was known since the beta, this counts as "playing the game right" by whatever powers that decide so, and I would be genuinely surprised if anything would be done about it this late ...

I am pretty sure that the pulse has to be of a specific length depending on how long the inserter action is gonna take. I vividly remember having to adjust my timer contraption, which works on the same logic as yours, when I switched to red inserters in one of my builds. The pulse was too short, and ...