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by xaetral
Sun Aug 28, 2022 10:46 am
Forum: Bug Reports
Topic: [1.1.61] Pipe Graphic Glitch on Specific Coordinates
Replies: 0
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[1.1.61] Pipe Graphic Glitch on Specific Coordinates

First here's what the issue looks like: https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/306402592265732098/1013387966569263155/unknown.png - The entity below that weird line has to be an up-left corner pipe, the one on the top can be most other type of pipes including the down-right corner. - Also the zoom...
by xaetral
Sun May 08, 2022 2:18 pm
Forum: Mechanical Throughput Magic (circuit-free)
Topic: Beautiful Sushi Belts
Replies: 65
Views: 70199

Re: Beautiful Sushi Belts

Here's my latest build, a 5400 SPM sushi belt beaconed labs: https://i.imgur.com/36Vq3oO.png 0eNq9fdvOnNeN7LvoWhms8yGvEhgDK9HYwnYkQ4fBBEHeffcvKU631bWaVfVbN4niWOtAFrn6I4vkP1+8+uXT61/fv3n78cWf//nizV/fvf3w4s9/+eeLD29+evvjL0//7OM/fn394s8v3nx8/fcXL1+8/fHvT//r1esfL//qi3+9fPHm7d9e/9+LP+d/vXz4l3758dXV3yj/+u...
by xaetral
Thu Nov 04, 2021 9:13 am
Forum: Energy Production
Topic: All the different ways to increase the efficiency of a nuclear power plant
Replies: 259
Views: 36629

Re: All the different ways to increase the efficiency of a nuclear power plant

Yeah using the steam level automation on train-based setup is the go-to because while having less than 14 steam tanks per reactor is annoying on a 2xN setup, that's only a bit more than 3 trains containing 4 fluid wagons, which isn't so much.
by xaetral
Wed Oct 27, 2021 2:04 pm
Forum: Energy Production
Topic: All the different ways to increase the efficiency of a nuclear power plant
Replies: 259
Views: 36629

Re: All the different ways to increase the efficiency of a nuclear power plant

[...] heat exchanger seem to produce more than theoric value used to compute. Yeah they don't produce 103 steam per second, but rather 10/0.097 or approximately 103.0927835 steam per second. That's not an issue tho because it's a rational number, meaning you can just use an error dithering circuit:...
by xaetral
Wed Oct 20, 2021 9:56 am
Forum: Energy Production
Topic: All the different ways to increase the efficiency of a nuclear power plant
Replies: 259
Views: 36629

Re: All the different ways to increase the efficiency of a nuclear power plant

here is your save with your name on it and little heart with belts you can finish the 53 hours or so of testing to make sure the timing are correct for 1000 cycle, if not try out more and don't come back before it's done ! Friendly reminder to everyone who doesn't already knows this, you can increa...
by xaetral
Mon Oct 18, 2021 10:15 am
Forum: Energy Production
Topic: All the different ways to increase the efficiency of a nuclear power plant
Replies: 259
Views: 36629

Re: All the different ways to increase the efficiency of a nuclear power plant

i understand that you remove the 1GJ of potential energy storage under the form of steam stored in turbines or heat exchanger and pipes to the 39 GJ of your total energy storage capacity. This makes it 38GJ you can store under the form of heat, temperature rising after the steam is backed up. Out o...
by xaetral
Sat Oct 16, 2021 9:46 pm
Forum: Energy Production
Topic: All the different ways to increase the efficiency of a nuclear power plant
Replies: 259
Views: 36629

Re: All the different ways to increase the efficiency of a nuclear power plant

I prefer to talk about stuff per reactor, it eases 2xN setups. A fuel cell gives off 32GJ due to the neighbor bonus (at least it tends toward that), which is 32/2.425 ~= 13.2 storage tanks full of steam. For each reactor you have around 27.5 steam turbines, already holding 5500 steam, a bit less th...
by xaetral
Thu Oct 14, 2021 2:06 pm
Forum: Energy Production
Topic: All the different ways to increase the efficiency of a nuclear power plant
Replies: 259
Views: 36629

Re: All the different ways to increase the efficiency of a nuclear power plant

I don't think I get what you mean here... You can just ask the power plant (using circuit-wired combinators) to add 8GJ per reactor to the "heat system" over 200s (though you might consider it to be instant because you need to be able to store that energy if you don't consume any power). A...
by xaetral
Mon Oct 04, 2021 7:04 am
Forum: Energy Production
Topic: All the different ways to increase the efficiency of a nuclear power plant
Replies: 259
Views: 36629

Re: All the different ways to increase the efficiency of a nuclear power plant

mrvn wrote: ↑
Wed Sep 29, 2021 4:20 pm
Similar problem, the pumps only manage 1200 steam/s so that's a bottleneck.
There are two (or one and a half) pumps per 16 heat exchangers, I know the pic is a quite zoomed out but they are there.
by xaetral
Wed Sep 29, 2021 1:54 pm
Forum: Energy Production
Topic: All the different ways to increase the efficiency of a nuclear power plant
Replies: 259
Views: 36629

Re: All the different ways to increase the efficiency of a nuclear power plant

Nice, here's mine:

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Notice that the pumps would be quite close from a side to another, which helps a lot fitting it into a natural lake (you may also use 3 pumps per two reactors instead of 4 pumps).
by xaetral
Mon Sep 27, 2021 12:31 pm
Forum: Energy Production
Topic: All the different ways to increase the efficiency of a nuclear power plant
Replies: 259
Views: 36629

Re: All the different ways to increase the efficiency of a nuclear power plant

Doesn't work quite like that: https://wiki.factorio.com/Heat_pipe Ah, indeed, tho 400 chained heatpipes would still result in a heat capacity of 300MJ/tile (first one 500, last one 100), which totals to 120GJ and that's only on one dimention. Well, only if you draw power where you produce it, other...
by xaetral
Mon Sep 27, 2021 8:36 am
Forum: Energy Production
Topic: All the different ways to increase the efficiency of a nuclear power plant
Replies: 259
Views: 36629

Re: All the different ways to automate a nuclear power plant

You're forgetting heat pipes and unfuled reactors as a heat-storage method. They are lossless but not directly measurable. Personally I've never seen a large scale design using this approach but I'm sure they must be out there. ... It is because the math says, that reactors are incredibly eypensive...
by xaetral
Mon Sep 27, 2021 8:22 am
Forum: Energy Production
Topic: All the different ways to increase the efficiency of a nuclear power plant
Replies: 259
Views: 36629

Re: All the different ways to increase the efficiency of a nuclear power plant

You can also measure the steam directly for that with a flow monitor. Needs two tanks and two pumps. Boiler or heat exchanger feeds a reservoir tank, which is drawn on by a pump that feeds a measurement tank, which is drained by a second pump. The only purpose of the pumps is to ensure that the mea...
by xaetral
Sun Sep 19, 2021 8:29 pm
Forum: Energy Production
Topic: All the different ways to increase the efficiency of a nuclear power plant
Replies: 259
Views: 36629

Re: All the different ways to automate a nuclear power plant

mrvn wrote: ↑
Sun Sep 19, 2021 5:49 pm
[...] and actually gets lost when you blueprint the reactor and haven't researched the inserter capacity bonus yet.
Damn I didn't know, it almost sounds like a bug.
by xaetral
Sun Sep 19, 2021 5:26 pm
Forum: Energy Production
Topic: All the different ways to increase the efficiency of a nuclear power plant
Replies: 259
Views: 36629

Re: All the different ways to automate a nuclear power plant

First the accumulators will start to fall as turbines reduce their production, which in larger reactors happens gradually as heat exchangers further from the reactor shut down first. So there is some overlap between turbines and accumulators. I haven't tested this but if you only have one accumulat...
by xaetral
Sun Sep 19, 2021 2:50 pm
Forum: Energy Production
Topic: All the different ways to increase the efficiency of a nuclear power plant
Replies: 259
Views: 36629

Re: All the different ways to automate a nuclear power plant

"All the different ways to prevent wasting fuel in a nuclear power plant" would be a more accurate description ! Indeed! Fixed. Does that count as automated way to nuclear power plant :) ? If no automation counts, then this does indeed. I'll add this in my sheets πŸ‘ The "why bother&qu...
by xaetral
Sun Sep 19, 2021 12:36 pm
Forum: Energy Production
Topic: All the different ways to increase the efficiency of a nuclear power plant
Replies: 259
Views: 36629

Re: All the different ways to automate a nuclear power plant

You're forgetting heat pipes and unfuled reactors as a heat-storage method. They are lossless but not directly measurable. Personally I've never seen a large scale design using this approach but I'm sure they must be out there. I've totally taken that into account actually, the 1st one (steam level...
by xaetral
Sat Sep 18, 2021 8:07 pm
Forum: Energy Production
Topic: All the different ways to increase the efficiency of a nuclear power plant
Replies: 259
Views: 36629

All the different ways to increase the efficiency of a nuclear power plant

You know the thing about nuclear power, reactor burns fuel to heat up and continues to do so even at max temperature (1000Β°C), thus wasting fuel. But how many different techniques can overcome this problem? 1? 2? I know 5 of them for now, let's discuss a bit about them. As a reminder, the reactor tu...
by xaetral
Thu Jul 30, 2020 1:53 pm
Forum: Mechanical Throughput Magic (circuit-free)
Topic: Beautiful Sushi Belts
Replies: 65
Views: 70199

Re: Beautiful Sushi Belts

Well yeah, things can become weird when the feedback is rigid (by that I mean no space to backup/expand unlike the first designs I posted). BTW I managed to make my 2700spm sushi belt work. I just... built 4 times my first dual sushi setup... Yup, no need to overcomplicate things, if it works why wo...
by xaetral
Sat Jun 27, 2020 10:43 am
Forum: Mechanical Throughput Magic (circuit-free)
Topic: Beautiful Sushi Belts
Replies: 65
Views: 70199

Re: Beautiful Sushi Belts

Yes but it's far from circuit free If you are interested in the reason why I posted this in the circuit-free designs it's because it really is circuit-free, especially compared to the original sushi belt design. This design requires full belts on the inputs, it may be ensured by using circuits but ...

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