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- Sun Sep 08, 2024 4:22 am
- Forum: Railway Setups
- Topic: Crash & jam safe train exchange network (RHD LCC trains)
- Replies: 0
- Views: 88
Crash & jam safe train exchange network (RHD LCC trains)
I've made it a personal mission not to succumb to the most common cause of death in Factorio, and so far, I've avoided the achievement. I attribute that success to my train network design, which has built-in signals that warn which tracks have moving trains on them. Since the blueprints alone won't ...
- Fri Aug 02, 2024 2:22 pm
- Forum: News
- Topic: Friday Facts #421 - Optimizations 2.0
- Replies: 109
- Views: 18833
Re: Friday Facts #421 - Optimizations 2.0
Would it work with entity that draws from 3+ electric networks? Yes; just find the least loaded network for each rebate bucket (doesn't have to be per-entity) and apply rebates to the other networks for that bucket. Theoretically you can have a machine draw from unlimited amount of networks. There ...
- Thu Aug 01, 2024 2:30 pm
- Forum: News
- Topic: Friday Facts #421 - Optimizations 2.0
- Replies: 109
- Views: 18833
Re: Friday Facts #421 - Optimizations 2.0
I am honestly surprised you guys are iterating over everything to compute the electricity.[...] All this. A while ago I made a proposal about consolidating the power buffers on combinators so that they could be calculated per-network instead of per-entity, but it got tossed for unrelated reasons. S...
- Fri Jul 19, 2024 3:58 pm
- Forum: News
- Topic: Friday Facts #420 - Fusion Reactor
- Replies: 108
- Views: 21048
Re: Friday Facts #420 - Fusion Reactor
In this FFF image, it appears that "warm coolant" is treated as an entirely separate fluid from "cool coolant": https://cdn.factorio.com/assets/blog-sync/fff-420-demo-1.png I'm apprehensive about how the difference in temperature will be handled; I think it would be clunky and a ...
- Tue Jul 09, 2024 4:21 am
- Forum: Energy Production
- Topic: Nuclear Power Plant from the future
- Replies: 105
- Views: 6778
Re: Nuclear Power Plant from the future
[...] I'm a bit confused by the choice of only integers for quantity of fluid distributed, i assume you mean for simplicity, but i expect 12 pumps to get around 1.57 fluid for a total of 19 and not 7 to get 2 and 5 to get 1, or it would not be so "predictible around junctions"[...] I glos...
- Sun Jul 07, 2024 3:42 pm
- Forum: Energy Production
- Topic: Nuclear Power Plant from the future
- Replies: 105
- Views: 6778
Re: Nuclear Power Plant from the future
[...] It would only use the "????" answer only if the initial conditions are different enough to allow for all the pumps to potentially pull at their "max pulling rate" from the whole segment. [...] That "???" was my confusion at the 16.6667 answer, not me wondering ab...
- Sun Jul 07, 2024 4:16 am
- Forum: Energy Production
- Topic: Nuclear Power Plant from the future
- Replies: 105
- Views: 6778
Re: Nuclear Power Plant from the future
Now it makes even less sense to me; I don't know why you're trying so hard to use the individual capacities of pipes or tanks to calculate things when it causes so many strange problems, and the steps I showed already handle the "special case" you're talking about just fine. In the equatio...
- Sun Jul 07, 2024 1:01 am
- Forum: Energy Production
- Topic: Nuclear Power Plant from the future
- Replies: 105
- Views: 6778
Re: Nuclear Power Plant from the future
[...] There is a special case where a system to prevent fluid from being taken multiple times is needed when a single pipe has more than 1 pump pulling from it and i proposed a solution. [...] I don't understand what you mean by this; the rules as defined in the FFF should handle such a case normal...
- Sat Jul 06, 2024 9:33 pm
- Forum: Energy Production
- Topic: Nuclear Power Plant from the future
- Replies: 105
- Views: 6778
Re: Nuclear Power Plant from the future
Yes, that would have been the idea, junction or not actually, just a single strech of pipe with 2 consumer connected on the last one would have given them both half the max potential pulling rate compared to having them offset by 1 pipe so they do not attempt to pull from the same, and so no matter...
- Sat Jul 06, 2024 7:10 pm
- Forum: Energy Production
- Topic: Nuclear Power Plant from the future
- Replies: 105
- Views: 6778
Re: Nuclear Power Plant from the future
[...] I may be wrong but maybe the fluid segment contain fluid as a whole which is then distributed into every entity based on its volume, => pipe 100 tanks 25000 ,which is then the cause for the "optimal case" being pump-to-tanks compared to pump-to-pipes. That wouldn't be simulating flu...
- Sat Jul 06, 2024 2:22 pm
- Forum: Energy Production
- Topic: Nuclear Power Plant from the future
- Replies: 105
- Views: 6778
Re: Nuclear Power Plant from the future
[...]but i think in this case it is ok to quote some private messages that are part of this discussions[...] It's fine. [...]i can understand the tank is made "better" on purpose , but the "pipes" could also allow more than 6k/s fluid transfer (potentially) if pump is allowed to...
- Fri Jul 05, 2024 3:29 am
- Forum: Energy Production
- Topic: Nuclear Power Plant from the future
- Replies: 105
- Views: 6778
Re: Nuclear Power Plant from the future
I think there is a key detail you are missing that relates to this rule in the FFF: Machines can push fluid into a segment at an unlimited rate, and can pull from a segment at a rate proportional to how full the segment is. In other words, if a segment is half full, then the pulling rate is half of...
- Thu Jul 04, 2024 11:40 pm
- Forum: Energy Production
- Topic: Nuclear Power Plant from the future
- Replies: 105
- Views: 6778
Re: Nuclear Power Plant from the future
I think there is a key detail you are missing that relates to this rule in the FFF: Machines can push fluid into a segment at an unlimited rate, and can pull from a segment at a rate proportional to how full the segment is. In other words, if a segment is half full, then the pulling rate is half of ...
- Thu Jul 04, 2024 9:11 pm
- Forum: Energy Production
- Topic: Nuclear Power Plant from the future
- Replies: 105
- Views: 6778
Re: Nuclear Power Plant from the future
[...] https://cdn.factorio.com/assets/blog-sync/fff-416-snake-after.mp4 It appears to me that there IS a concept of "individual" properties. The tank being still 25K capacity and not into the same group as the "snake of pipe". both being separated by a pump making them seemingly...
- Thu Jul 04, 2024 3:34 pm
- Forum: Energy Production
- Topic: Nuclear Power Plant from the future
- Replies: 105
- Views: 6778
Re: Nuclear Power Plant from the future
I think you're getting hung up on the old idea of pipes/tanks having their own properties. In the FFF they showed individual flow rate and capacity bars on each tank or piece of pipe, but under the new system, there's no such concept; all pipes and tanks connected contiguously will share the same &q...
- Fri Jun 28, 2024 11:34 pm
- Forum: Energy Production
- Topic: Nuclear Power Plant from the future
- Replies: 105
- Views: 6778
Re: Nuclear Power Plant from the future
[...]I got Factorio in 2021, and I never got a different simple oil processing than what it is today.[...]I really don't understand why someone is angry about that.[...] If you'd like to learn more, I've got plenty of references and info in the balance proposal thread I made , and it's still open f...
- Fri Jun 28, 2024 3:44 am
- Forum: Energy Production
- Topic: Nuclear Power Plant from the future
- Replies: 105
- Views: 6778
Re: Nuclear Power Plant from the future
[...] The extra tanks are not superfluous ! they are meant to abuse what was explained in the FFF that the pull rate of machine would depend on the % of fill of the pipe network in which they are connected. Since there are such huge tank buffer, it will make the level of the "segment" in ...
- Thu May 30, 2024 10:53 am
- Forum: Energy Production
- Topic: Autobreaker for preventing brownouts and controlling backup power
- Replies: 22
- Views: 6198
Re: Autobreaker for preventing brownouts and controlling backup power
I've made a habit not to use the pulse function on belts and inserters precisely due to that inconsistency , (which apparently won't be fixed ,) so any logic circuitry I use is agnostic to the severity of brownouts. As a result, I care about brownouts in the general sense (due to slowed production, ...
- Wed May 29, 2024 7:47 pm
- Forum: Energy Production
- Topic: Autobreaker for preventing brownouts and controlling backup power
- Replies: 22
- Views: 6198
Re: Autobreaker for preventing brownouts and controlling backup power
[...]Hopefully long enough until the night is over. Does this mean you're counting on solar power to pull you out of the hole, so to speak? I dunno, I'd much rather put up with some intermittent blackouts in exchange for full power the rest of the time. Combinators, circuits, and timers won't get d...
- Wed May 29, 2024 3:19 am
- Forum: Energy Production
- Topic: Autobreaker for preventing brownouts and controlling backup power
- Replies: 22
- Views: 6198
Re: Autobreaker for preventing brownouts and controlling backup power
The brownout alarm I linked above has similar deep brownout detection capability, but, since you brought it up, I must ask: [...] It has 16 independent battery's and it tries to only commit them one by one depending how deep the brownout is. [...] What is the advantage to isolating accumulator banks...