The thruster logic remains a complex puzzle: The idea that reading pipeline fullness directly via wires makes space platform throttling "too simple" is a misconception. The relationship between thrust and pipeline fullness is non-linear . A simple wire connection to a pump with a fixed ...

They did add substantial capability to the quality recipe modding API that let me overhaul my mod that addresses this issue. It both allows easy quality capping of an item stream and prevents machines from silently consuming quality items like an automatic downgrade feature would allow.

You still have to control the level of fluid in the system, it's just possible now to do so by throttling the chemical plants themselves.



No matter how much I think about this issue, the only easy fix seems to be bringing back the hidden buffer. However, I actually think the current mechanic ...

To those having a problem with how it works in 2.1.8, let's consider this angle: If you are producing enough fluid, your fluid systems will be at least 10% full, and no machine will starve. Heck, it could even be 97.4% empty and it would still work. If your fluid system is 97.6% empty, the root ...

New version released, ground-up re-write using new quality-related recipe API's added in 2.1. Resolves the race condition issue, removes run-time scripting and any related interactions completely, and supports modded qualities.

I should note, however, that even if I change EM plants to suck actively like directional connections, they won't be able to self-balance like directional connections do because they are operating directly on the segment, so the first machine to update will get the greatest share of fluid. There ...

Edit Edit: Also does it actually matter if players can't see the contents of the pipe inside the machine? Isn't that visible via selecting the pipe segment it's part of, and can't it be drained along with that segment if it's pumped out? If not then the issue is that it's not acting enough like a ...

I should note, however, that even if I change EM plants to suck actively like directional connections, they won't be able to self-balance like directional connections do because they are operating directly on the segment, so the first machine to update will get the greatest share of fluid. There is ...

Updated for 2.1, including preserving item properties in the way you'd expect.

I've addressed the bot build issue (it was an interaction with Packing Tape) and made changes that should make it more robust against other mod interactions.

I have different ideas on how to bring it to a 1.0 release ...

In some ways the down-binning concept makes a lot of sense, but even as someone who thoroughly botched early quality production I'm not a fan.

The "problem" these ideas are trying to solve seems to be the intentional challenge the game presents. Perhaps the challenge is a little bit too hard and ...

Steps to Reproduce

Place an Assembly Machine 2 with 2 modules.
Paste an Assembly Machine 3 blueprint with 4 of the same module on top of it. This will create an upgrade ghost with 2 module ghosts.
Before a bot installs the Assembly Machine 3 upgrade, manually place an Assembly Machine 3 on top of ...

Sounds about right. Same way productivity is the same, however you distribute it. Except in the costs of the modules themselves, so certain steps are better.


Not quite. Unlike with productivity, you can take quality a step further by having parallel production chains with quality modules that ...

Tinyboss wrote: Sun Nov 10, 2024 9:04 pm

• Nuclear reactors generate much more heat for the same fuel.

Is that so? The wiki describes their energy consumption as scaling directly to their increased power output.

I'm confused.

First, on the realism: you can't put a lower end processor in a higher-grade computer. If my i9 goes out, I can't just get a cheaper i7 to replace it with willy-nilly. That's how quality works--you're not trying to use a shiny electronics circuit in place of a dull one, you're ...

You're not actually making it worse, just pretending its worse for the sake of shoving it into lower-quality recipes. That's why I've used "down-binning" instead of "down-grading" when talking about this subject.

But, requiring the player to explicitly and deliberately lose an item's QA paperwork ...

This is in practice worse then the current situation, because it will be way harder for players unfamiliar with the quality system to learn when they're using it wrong. Quality that mysteriously disappears is much harder to spot then quality that clogs up your production line.


To clarify, I'm ...

I've created a proof-of-concept mod that implements down-grading (down-binning) with chests and scripting.

https://mods.factorio.com/mod/quality-down-binning

Trying for Rare's but getting your smelters clogged up with Uncommons, that you can't even throw into infinite technologies because you don't have an entire duplicate factory for Uncommon inputs?

Then this mod is the solution for you! Take after ...

Rather than allowing higher quality items as inputs, I think it would make more sense to be able to down- bin excess items of a given quality by turning them into a lower quality. This is directly analogous to how excess high-quality items are handled in real-world manufacturing, which is to simply ...

Another way the Compilatron helps us keep the immersion intact is as a plot agent. Currently campaign plot events just 'happen' when objectives are completed, or when characters internal monologue decides the next move. Now we can have Compilatron act as a driving force to the campaign, it gives ...