I already explained why as hard as it is for you to believe it, or you definitely do not believe it, it WAS BETTER in terms of UPS. Where is your UPS-optimal prom ship man? Let's go back to that.


Better than what ? i have never seen such ship with 2 row of railguns, NEVER, so i'm hard ...

I already explained why as hard as it is for you to believe it, or you definitely do not believe it, it WAS BETTER in terms of UPS. Where is your UPS-optimal prom ship man? Let's go back to that.


Better than what ? i have never seen such ship with 2 row of railguns, NEVER, so i'm hard ...

"It's hard to believe this is necessary in an optimal ship. It sound like a fail-safe for a situation that doesn't occur if you have enough railguns in the first place. If the defense fails occasionnaly it isn't optimal to me, it is insuffucient."
Even your own wording proves this was a serious ...

"It's hard to believe this is necessary in an optimal ship. It sound like a fail-safe for a situation that doesn't occur if you have enough railguns in the first place. If the defense fails occasionnaly it isn't optimal to me, it is insuffucient."

Even your own wording proves this was a serious ...

Also one other solution for the railgun problem, if you wanna stay unmodded, but still want a relatively optimal ship, is to place some q1 quality railguns BEHIND your q4/q5 railguns. They will only shoot if an asteroid gets too close. They will kill some of your stuff, but its better than ...

What you describe as an optimal ship is based on mechanics designed by the developers of this game.


Yeah you could do a double layer of rail gun with the second one designed to pierce thru the first one, this was a very serious design at the time, for sure, there are countless of examples ...

Would make it more consistent with the other two logistics, and that was the expected behaviour going into 2.1, at least from me.

It also smoothes out the transfers and makes predicting how long they take easier

It would be really really cool for promethium.

I also would like this

ok buddy, when you even attempt to make a UPS optimal prom ship, get back to me


I understand you don't want to argue, but the nature of your dismissal just goes to show that you easily consider the matter very niche and requiring expertise, only valid in a precise scenario, the UPS ...

ok buddy, when you make a UPS optimal prom ship, get back to me


When i look at the ship you posted on reddit, it doesn't feature the second layer of low quality railgun designed to pierce thru the higher quality level of railguns in case an huge asteroid isn't destroyed : https://www.reddit ...

I see the same: dozen of hours and 20 round trips without any damage, then suddenly one hit with my much smaller prom ship as well, but I was never able to see the reason.
When I switched to the platform one second after the alert, there was no asteroid any more, so it wasn't a huge asteroid ...

If my ship was getting destroyed all the time and couldn't even survive one roundtrip, I'd agree with you. This specific one had done dozens of runs and survived. It had killed a total of >7 million huge asteroids before one, out of luck, managed to do catastrophic damage. Most likely, if your ...

true, also it doesn't help that it seems talking to the developers directly seems to have achieved more in my experience than using the forums which they say we should use :shock:

You likely are gone and will never come back to this. I read this whole exchange and I really feel for you. Great ...

Ok I have another savefile that starts earlier before the issue happens:


This is again regarding the blue/purple science inserter in the middle of the screen
3911 ticks after loading the savefile, it picks up blue science
4166 ticks after loading the savefile (+255 ticks from 3911), it picks up ...

EDIT: Boskid let me know this first savefile is not helpful, so please check out my 2nd post in this thread for another savefile

9 ticks after loading the savefile (1 tick after what's shown in the image below), the yellow circled inserter in the image will not pickup 4 chemical science packs, even ...

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this reddit thread and my comments to the OP and his responses explained it quite well for me

https://www.reddit.com/r/factorio/comme ... are_button

With the output full, the assembler won't do anything anyway. Removing the spoilage from the input slot will result in more Yumako being loaded, but nothing done with it, and it will just spoil, so I don't see any benefit of changing the current behaviour.


then why not block the nutrient slot ...

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