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by Axs1
Mon Nov 20, 2023 10:35 pm
Forum: News
Topic: Friday Facts #375 - Quality
Replies: 795
Views: 113641

Re: Friday Facts #375 - Quality

It'll be interesting to see how quality interacts with productivity research. Might math out some hypotheticals later... I think it wouldn't change much, it's like putting quality modules in the machines, with the difference that you can have 4 quality modules There's a breakpoint where the margina...
by Axs1
Mon Nov 20, 2023 9:55 pm
Forum: News
Topic: Friday Facts #375 - Quality
Replies: 795
Views: 113641

Re: Friday Facts #375 - Quality

Your end goal, ultimately, will be making everything as Q5, anyway, so it's never going to be "worthless" I doubt this is a viable strategy. From my understanding, the way quality is designed, it's meant to be used only on a very limited part of the factory, where extreme optimisation is ...
by Axs1
Mon Nov 20, 2023 9:23 pm
Forum: News
Topic: Friday Facts #375 - Quality
Replies: 795
Views: 113641

Re: Friday Facts #375 - Quality

Koub wrote: ↑
Mon Nov 20, 2023 8:31 pm
For which items does productivity research apply?
by Axs1
Sun Nov 19, 2023 4:26 pm
Forum: News
Topic: Friday Facts #375 - Quality
Replies: 795
Views: 113641

Re: Friday Facts #375 - Quality

Query. Can you use different qualities of raw materials, or do they have the be the same quality? And if so, what are you supposed to do with the occasional higher quality materials you can't match with others? Or does it use the lowest included quality, average, etc? Do fluids have quality? Can yo...
by Axs1
Thu Nov 16, 2023 9:46 pm
Forum: News
Topic: Friday Facts #376 - Research and Technology
Replies: 363
Views: 50241

Re: Friday Facts #376 - Research and Technology

Sorry for posting the spreadsheet so many times, I have made changes that maybe someone will be interested in. Now in the spreadsheet you can enter the number of quality or productivity modules for each assembler or recycler (recyclers do not support productivity, but I included it anyway) Spreadsh...
by Axs1
Thu Nov 16, 2023 1:20 am
Forum: News
Topic: Friday Facts #375 - Quality
Replies: 795
Views: 113641

Re: Friday Facts #375 - Quality

In the new spreadsheet you can do it, I have tested the "optimal" configuration of the wiki and none offers better results than the 4 quality modules I haven't gotten a chance to crack it open yet, but are you using Markov chains for the math or some kind of expected value substitution? N...
by Axs1
Wed Nov 15, 2023 5:23 am
Forum: News
Topic: Friday Facts #375 - Quality
Replies: 795
Views: 113641

Re: Friday Facts #375 - Quality

here I have uploaded the spreadsheet update https://forums.factorio.com/viewtopic.php?p=596868#p596868 I have seen the spreadcheat, i was wondering how you got those number for module bonus as it seem different than what you did earlier so i started checking the wiki page and i found : I found those...
by Axs1
Tue Nov 14, 2023 1:22 am
Forum: News
Topic: Friday Facts #376 - Research and Technology
Replies: 363
Views: 50241

Re: Friday Facts #376 - Research and Technology

snip Sorry for posting the spreadsheet so many times, I have made changes that maybe someone will be interested in. Now in the spreadsheet you can enter the number of quality or productivity modules for each assembler or recycler (recyclers do not support productivity, but I included it anyway) Spr...
by Axs1
Wed Nov 08, 2023 4:25 am
Forum: News
Topic: Friday Facts #376 - Research and Technology
Replies: 363
Views: 50241

Re: Friday Facts #376 - Research and Technology

I know, the thing I'm curious about is why the sum over the column is meaningful - as it sums over values which don't correlate. The sum represents the probability that the item will level up regardless of how many levels it raises, it is to know what percentage does not level up. Sorry about the s...
by Axs1
Wed Nov 08, 2023 4:24 am
Forum: News
Topic: Friday Facts #375 - Quality
Replies: 795
Views: 113641

Re: Friday Facts #375 - Quality

Share my spreadsheet on the cost of getting premium quality. You can find the results for: Assembler with Quality and Recycler with Quality Assembler with Quality and Recycler with Quality(Old Version) Assembler with Quality and Recycler with Productivity Assembler with Quality and Recycler without...
by Axs1
Fri Nov 03, 2023 7:05 am
Forum: News
Topic: Friday Facts #376 - Research and Technology
Replies: 363
Views: 50241

Re: Friday Facts #376 - Research and Technology

I know, the thing I'm curious about is why the sum over the column is meaningful - as it sums over values which don't correlate. The sum represents the probability that the item will level up regardless of how many levels it raises, it is to know what percentage does not level up. Sorry about the s...
by Axs1
Thu Nov 02, 2023 6:17 am
Forum: News
Topic: Friday Facts #375 - Quality
Replies: 795
Views: 113641

Re: Friday Facts #375 - Quality

Share my spreadsheet on the cost of getting premium quality. You can find the results for: Assembler with Quality and Recycler with Quality Assembler with Quality and Recycler with Quality(Old Version) Assembler with Quality and Recycler with Productivity Assembler with Quality and Recycler without ...
by Axs1
Thu Nov 02, 2023 2:29 am
Forum: News
Topic: Friday Facts #376 - Research and Technology
Replies: 363
Views: 50241

Re: Friday Facts #376 - Research and Technology

I know, the thing I'm curious about is why the sum over the column is meaningful - as it sums over values which don't correlate. The sum represents the probability that the item will level up regardless of how many levels it raises, it is to know what percentage does not level up. I don't see how t...
by Axs1
Tue Oct 31, 2023 11:06 pm
Forum: News
Topic: Friday Facts #376 - Research and Technology
Replies: 363
Views: 50241

Re: Friday Facts #376 - Research and Technology

Here: Cost.ods I don't really understand your spreadsheet. What does the "Total" row represent? - From the formula, it's the number of modules of a given level you'd get if you inputted one of each level of module? What does the "% Level Up in 1 level" represent? And what do the...
by Axs1
Tue Oct 31, 2023 10:16 pm
Forum: News
Topic: Friday Facts #375 - Quality
Replies: 795
Views: 113641

Re: Friday Facts #375 - Quality

I am not taking into consideration the infrastructure, it is only the time to obtain a legendary item and I only use the solar panel, because it is easy to perform the calculations, it can be extrapolated to recipes that require more ingredients, for example, the nuclear reactor requires many ingre...
by Axs1
Tue Oct 31, 2023 9:29 pm
Forum: News
Topic: Friday Facts #375 - Quality
Replies: 795
Views: 113641

Re: Friday Facts #375 - Quality

Only legendary modules will be used Iron plates and copper plates are considered raw materials Productivity modules are used in any recipe that allows it It is assumed that the time to recycle a product is the same time it takes to create it The recipe for iron gears and copper wires is used to obt...
by Axs1
Tue Oct 31, 2023 7:58 pm
Forum: News
Topic: Friday Facts #375 - Quality
Replies: 795
Views: 113641

Re: Friday Facts #375 - Quality

I have made the calculations of the times to manufacture the solar panel, using the quality modules at the end of production was 10 times less than the time to obtain the legendary raw materials. obtaining the legendary raw material can be used separately for continuous production with the possibil...
by Axs1
Tue Oct 31, 2023 7:34 pm
Forum: News
Topic: Friday Facts #376 - Research and Technology
Replies: 363
Views: 50241

Re: Friday Facts #376 - Research and Technology

I have a question, how have they carried out the calculations to obtain that the cost of creating a legendary item is 56 times more, 116 according to a correction they made or Hmm, ok, I've just made a spreadsheet to come up with the numbers, and it seems right, and it's now giving 40x as expensive...
by Axs1
Tue Oct 31, 2023 6:31 pm
Forum: News
Topic: Friday Facts #376 - Research and Technology
Replies: 363
Views: 50241

Re: Friday Facts #376 - Research and Technology

I have a question, how have they carried out the calculations to obtain that the cost of creating a legendary item is 56 times more, 116 according to a correction they made or Hmm, ok, I've just made a spreadsheet to come up with the numbers, and it seems right, and it's now giving 40x as expensive ...
by Axs1
Tue Oct 31, 2023 6:05 pm
Forum: News
Topic: Friday Facts #375 - Quality
Replies: 795
Views: 113641

Re: Friday Facts #375 - Quality

snip I have made the calculations of the times to manufacture the solar panel, using the quality modules at the end of production was 10 times less than the time to obtain the legendary raw materials. obtaining the legendary raw material can be used separately for continuous production with the pos...

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