loading after updating game from 0.16.4 to 0.16.5 gives error : "Opening yyy.zip file failed : bad zip file.
the file that is giving error was a 0.15.x loaded and saved with game updated to 0.16.4

Loading old 0.15.x saves , with game updated to 0.16.5 , and reloading , gives no errors.

Took a while to reach the 41 needed to start the process, but then nearly all the U-238 was enriched.
i had to cut a piece of belt to make it stack again.

i think there are more important things to focus on...

some real goal for playing after "finishing" the game 5-6 times , i have no purpose of playing it again, it is always the same..
there is no need to expand/duplicate /enlarge the base , if not for the mere purpose of doing it.
There is non need ...

I've spent many hours playing.
From my tests i have never been in
1) lack of coal for my burners.
2) always been in lack of "crude oil" ( never used solid fuel )

I think some other changes rather then "burners optimizations with coal" should be done :

1) Some king of process that using "heat" and ...

AlexPhoenix wrote:Gammro, can you please provide specs of your PC(RAM, 32/64 bit, GPU RAM, OS ver) and factorio version(did you try 0.9.2?), i will try to reproduce slutter via virtual machine.

0.9.2 ?
Where ?

Interesting concept, but you focus on outputting the entire mining operation's ore on a single belt lane supposedly going into the furnaces. Don't you think that you may have issues with that? For example, suppose the belt capacity is not reached and your ore is happily chugging along. However, if ...

sparr wrote:For now I'm just pumping all my light oil into a steam engine.

well that's a solution , but is also a waste.

If you have excess, dont store, crack...
And if you need more heavy oil, use the first oil processing instead of the advanced oil processing.
The problem now is not that it is overproduced, I think the problem is that people dont really know how to find a balance.

My recomendation: Mine all those ...

nice but i prefer another kind of setup.

plastic production and sulfur will not for sure be enough with only 1 rafinery shared for both...

in my test factory i was not able to handle the upkeep of n° 4 lvl3 assembling machine producing the blue science pack
neither with 3 rafinery...

cannot imagine with 12

p.s. tell me how you'll ...

light oil right now is overproduced.
once started i was full of carbon and was too much anyway
after the introduction of light oil to solid fuel i stopped mining coal and got 80k of solid fuel
while i was always on low level of sulfur and plastic needed for advanced circuits, batteries and robots ...

Maybe the devs have time to gift us with the exact numbers :D

I Found that a full day is 25.000 ticks , 60 ticks/s = 416.6 realtime seconds.
And the night with sunrise and sunset is 138 seconds
those from developers notes
So i'll assume :

full day : 416.6 sec
full dark night : 40-41sec ---->41 ...

I said in that thread (mentioned above) night/day ration is 0.3060 but it was wrong, because I divided it with fullday.
Its more likely 0.436

My test setup to replace 10 steam engines end up with (85+37=) 122 solars and 102 accumulators. I used 16 radars and 23 lasers to create consumption close ...

BurnHard wrote:This picture shows me you have more than double the amount of solar collectors you actually need

yup about 5 times the needed =)

BurnHard wrote:Maybe you will get the quickest results if you open the electric network ingame, take a stopwatch, wait one full day, one full night, and write down your results ^^ also measure the ramp up- / ramp down times.

=)

Dont mix up real time hours with ingame hours. A ingame night is maybe only 100 (real-time)seconds long. So you need just enough accus to get 30MW for 100 seconds = 3 Gigajoules = 3000 MJ + reserve

so the info i'm missing is how long is a INGAME full day , and how is splitted day/night ...

Your calculations are correct, but for one point: the night is MUCH shorter (somewhere in the region 3/4 day, 1/4 night). And at dawn and sunset there is some sort increase and decrease in solar power production, maybe someone could specify some numbers.

Try to build half the accus and 3/4 of the ...

How long is the day/ Night time ?

I'm trying to make and accurate calc of solar panel / accumulators ratio
but i think i miss some info....

i have a 30 MW consumption during daytime full load powered from steam engines.
I want to get rid of steam engines :

1) To match 30 MW i need 500 solar ...

is there a wat to turn off steam engines during daytime and power them on during night ?
mean automatically.

Optimization:
- needed time
- needed energy
- number of miners
- number of belts
- number of poles
- throughput
- needed space
- keeping the trees
- optimized for solar-panels
- ...

Depending on your target you come to completely different results...


@BurnHard: I mean it should be possible to ...