Friday Facts #210 - Circuit connector module implementation

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Re: Friday Facts #210 - Circuit connector module implementation

Post by MrGrim » Fri Sep 29, 2017 2:49 pm

Looks great! With the lamp update, would it be possible to address the over saturation effect of having a large number of colored lamps close together? If they behaved more like white lamps where they only light up the respective colors of the surrounding terrain to full brightness rather than adding to the color they would look a lot better.

Thanks!

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Re: Friday Facts #210 - Circuit connector module implementation

Post by Peregrin_Tooc » Fri Sep 29, 2017 2:52 pm

Hello dear Devs,

I just want to let you know that I really enjoy the FFF format. It's a bit like a SCRUM review, with the nice difference that we are, in a way, stakeholders instead of developers :D

Also, I really love the game ;)

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Re: Friday Facts #210 - Circuit connector module implementation

Post by Xeteth » Fri Sep 29, 2017 3:06 pm

Love all this new high-res stuff and it's pretty awesome to see the huge amount of work that goes into every aspect of the game.

One thing I do want to draw attention to is how much 'noise' the connectors and wires make on a 'grid' of lamps.

Take this for example:
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Notice how almost 'distorted' the grids seem due to all the wiring and connectors scattered throughout the lamps. Would it be possible to reduce the size of the connector on lamps or shift its position down a little so this is not so prominent?

Keep up the great work!

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Re: Friday Facts #210 - Circuit connector module implementation

Post by Proxy » Fri Sep 29, 2017 3:10 pm

Xeteth wrote:Love all this new high-res stuff and it's pretty awesome to see the huge amount of work that goes into every aspect of the game.

One thing I do want to draw attention to is how much 'noise' the connectors and wires make on a 'grid' of lamps.

Take this for example:
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Notice how almost 'distorted' the grids seem due to all the wiring and connectors scattered throughout the lamps. Would it be possible to reduce the size of the connector on lamps or shift its position down a little so this is not so prominent?

Keep up the great work!

Personally i thought connecting stuff to the Logistic network would allow you to send any kind of Signal wirelessly for anything in the same Logistic network, I was disapointed when it onyl read from the network and didn#t allow signals to be written into it

maybe that should be a thing to make Displays and large machines wireless... even tho it would require a lot more Signals... maybe the Greece Alphabet + the current Latin one? or custom namable signals?
Let's just wait til the Age of Iron Stars

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Re: Friday Facts #210 - Circuit connector module implementation

Post by Meddleman » Fri Sep 29, 2017 3:44 pm

Keep it up, the new universal connector HD art looks delicious!
One side note, is there no "read/write" coloured lamp for the belts like you explained for other connected entities?
I think I see a red light on the bottom right corner of some of the belt-frame housings, but some have a dark un-lit "bulb" on the top-left corner. The detector light perhaps?

Some housing frames don't appear to have the second bulb; could just be me though and the lack of an active preview GIF throwing me off.

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Re: Friday Facts #210 - Circuit connector module implementation

Post by SaintFlow » Fri Sep 29, 2017 4:04 pm

When do I get what I see here? :)

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Re: Friday Facts #210 - Circuit connector module implementation

Post by Klonan » Fri Sep 29, 2017 4:05 pm

MrGrim wrote:Looks great! With the lamp update, would it be possible to address the over saturation effect of having a large number of colored lamps close together? If they behaved more like white lamps where they only light up the respective colors of the surrounding terrain to full brightness rather than adding to the color they would look a lot better.

Thanks!
Such a thing is already possible with mods, for instance:
https://mods.factorio.com/mods/Klonan/E ... olor_Lamps
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Re: Friday Facts #210 - Circuit connector module implementation

Post by ABDUZEEDO » Fri Sep 29, 2017 4:30 pm

Will be nice to have black leds, actually the color black just don´t do nothing, and a new config in the leds to change your brightness, maybe low, with just color on the led, normal and high to brightness even more, and more colors, this will be nice add in Vanilla game, i know there´s a mod for this made by Klonan, but in Vanilla will be even better.

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Re: Friday Facts #210 - Circuit connector module implementation

Post by kwjcool321 » Fri Sep 29, 2017 5:29 pm

One of the belt connector cable seems to have wrong color pairs. Perhaps switch the red and green? That one belt with connector facing to the right.

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Re: Friday Facts #210 - Circuit connector module implementation

Post by y.petremann » Fri Sep 29, 2017 5:52 pm

Pretty good stuff.

Why is there a 6 on the lamp ? Is it modifiable ? (would work like a lamp with a decal on top of it to indicate a value)

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Re: Friday Facts #210 - Circuit connector module implementation

Post by ledow » Fri Sep 29, 2017 5:58 pm

Think we really need an expensive "wireless radio circuit" instead of so many wires all over the place.

Stick it on a red/green wire and it can transmit it to any wireless radio circuit in range, rather than having to convert to logistics networks or cable everything in sight.

Make a "circuit pylon" that lets you cable red/green from it for a certain range, but also wirelessly "connects" to the next pylon which can be some way away. Would have to be powered to work, obviously!

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Re: Friday Facts #210 - Circuit connector module implementation

Post by Xterminator » Fri Sep 29, 2017 6:53 pm

Great FF as always, but I especially love these that show off new super awesome graphics and entities!

All the circuit stuff looks fantastic and I think is definitely a change that's been needed for a while. The new lamps also look brilliant! :D

Can't believe it's been 4 years since the first Friday Facts, things have come such a long way!
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Re: Friday Facts #210 - Circuit connector module implementation

Post by Nightinggale » Fri Sep 29, 2017 7:14 pm

I have to say this looks really great. As much as I like the graphics, it's the fact that wire attachments in lua is being refactored. I just can't get wire interfaces to work in anything I make myself, regardless of how much I try. It doesn't look like it's a coding or lua problem because so far it would appear that I have successfully made whatever I have set my mind on as long as it doesn't contain wires.
ledow wrote:Think we really need an expensive "wireless radio circuit" instead of so many wires all over the place
There are multiple mods to deal with that issue. Just search the mod list for wireless. However they are for long distance signal transfer and not really for what this thread is about, which is lots of wires in a small area.

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Re: Friday Facts #210 - Circuit connector module implementation

Post by mp0011 » Fri Sep 29, 2017 9:00 pm

Horizontal wires bends due to gravity, but not vertical ones...
Shadows for vertical wires should bends. Now, the wires looks very tight.

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Same thing for all vertical wires, including powelines...
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Re: Friday Facts #210 - Circuit connector module implementation

Post by Jap2.0 » Fri Sep 29, 2017 9:08 pm

Also, those wires don't look HD. Is that going to be a thing sometime? I'd think it would be fairly simple, but I've been known to be wrong in the past :).
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Re: Friday Facts #210 - Circuit connector module implementation

Post by JKLxHIDE » Fri Sep 29, 2017 9:42 pm

I have a question. Why on the first HD transport belt connector there are no wires inside it? They all have prety wires inside except first.
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Re: Friday Facts #210 - Circuit connector module implementation

Post by eradicator » Fri Sep 29, 2017 10:37 pm

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While i generally like the wire changes i have a few OCD-ish "issues" that i'd like to point out:
  • I'd prefer if parallel wires had the same distance for all entities. On the picture inserters have ~5 pixels between the wires while chests have only ~1pixel. This will look weird if you have them in the same row. For example in a chain of chests - inserter - chest.
  • I find the additional red/green wires that are part of the belt-connector make the image too "busy" when trying to distinguish between which wires were manually added and which ones are "just decoration". Using wires as decorations is imho very counter-intuitive design as it reduces the stick-out-factor of the actual wires.
  • Completely removing the inactive lamp on connectors looks weird. I prefer the disabled ("black") lamp from the old design.
  • On above picture the belt-connector's red wire is difficult to see (imho) because it's exactly aligned with the yellow frames border. Same goes for the green wire on the gate.
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Re: Friday Facts #210 - Circuit connector module implementation

Post by zerohourrct » Fri Sep 29, 2017 11:30 pm

Please, please, please change rail signal write indicator so red light is for a red signal, and a green light is for a green signal, or have a completely new color for when the rail signal is being forced by the circuit network, so as not to conflict with the red/green colors already in use by the rail signals.

Also, it would be nice for colorblind users (all users really) if there were an options menu to configure all these circuit network colors, and BLINKING styles instead of just colors.

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Re: Friday Facts #210 - Circuit connector module implementation

Post by ske » Sat Sep 30, 2017 7:12 am

This FFF-post and those pictures fill my heart with joy. Have a nice weekend!

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