viewtopic.php?p=482201#p482201dabalciunas wrote: ↑Wed Oct 14, 2020 11:19 amThis is the only belt design I know which truly guarantees input and output balancing.
I didn't understand the "2-2 Unlimited Throughput" though, what does it improves over the 2-2 version? Maybe I am missing something here...Fooluaintblack wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 8:19 amI'll just leave these here...
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Left to right:
1-1
2-2
2-2 Unlimited Throughput
2-2 Inline
3-3
4-4
4-4 Inline
5-5
To my knowledge, these are the best available however the 5-5 needs a lot of work, it's a giant mess. There's a really nice 6-6 and 8-8 out there but no one really makes the odd sizes...
The normal 2-2 version shown there only has 1 path for left lane input to get to left lane output, the unlimited one has 2 paths.dabalciunas wrote: ↑Sun May 09, 2021 12:17 pmI didn't understand the "2-2 Unlimited Throughput" though, what does it improves over the 2-2 version? Maybe I am missing something here...
I did not quite understand yet, I think I must be really missing something here... see the attached images here, the left input belt can be diverted to the left output belt in 2 different ways: inverting lanes or not. Is there really a need for the extra elements, considering the output is limited to the same belt speed as the input?Zanthra wrote: ↑Sun May 09, 2021 3:59 pmThe normal 2-2 version shown there only has 1 path for left lane input to get to left lane output, the unlimited one has 2 paths.dabalciunas wrote: ↑Sun May 09, 2021 12:17 pmI didn't understand the "2-2 Unlimited Throughput" though, what does it improves over the 2-2 version? Maybe I am missing something here...
That’s for left belt input to left belt output, now do the same for left lane input (from both belts) to left lane output (from both belts), there is only one belt lane of internal capacity for two belt lanes of input.dabalciunas wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 9:32 amI did not quite understand yet, I think I must be really missing something here... see the attached images here, the left input belt can be diverted to the left output belt in 2 different ways: inverting lanes or not. Is there really a need for the extra elements, considering the output is limited to the same belt speed as the input?Zanthra wrote: ↑Sun May 09, 2021 3:59 pmThe normal 2-2 version shown there only has 1 path for left lane input to get to left lane output, the unlimited one has 2 paths.dabalciunas wrote: ↑Sun May 09, 2021 12:17 pmI didn't understand the "2-2 Unlimited Throughput" though, what does it improves over the 2-2 version? Maybe I am missing something here...
Oh... I see it now. Thanks for opening my eyes for that issue. I was actually wondering why the 2-2 was so much smaller than the 4-4. The explanation is, there is no free lunch!Zanthra wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 5:11 pm
That’s for left belt input to left belt output, now do the same for left lane input (from both belts) to left lane output (from both belts), there is only one belt lane of internal capacity for two belt lanes of input.
Coincidentally the “problem” for the compact 4-4 belt balancer you discovered is the same problem the normal 2-2 belt balancer has, and is the exact problem that the unlimited 2-2 belt balancer solves.
Try the same test on both the 2-2 variants as you did for the 4-4. The normal will have the same problem while the unlimited works perfectly.
Basically in this nomenclature, your 4-4 balancer would be "4-4 Unlimited Throughput".
dabalciunas wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 1:03 amOh... I see it now. Thanks for opening my eyes for that issue. I was actually wondering why the 2-2 was so much smaller than the 4-4. The explanation is, there is no free lunch!Zanthra wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 5:11 pm
That’s for left belt input to left belt output, now do the same for left lane input (from both belts) to left lane output (from both belts), there is only one belt lane of internal capacity for two belt lanes of input.
Coincidentally the “problem” for the compact 4-4 belt balancer you discovered is the same problem the normal 2-2 belt balancer has, and is the exact problem that the unlimited 2-2 belt balancer solves.
Try the same test on both the 2-2 variants as you did for the 4-4. The normal will have the same problem while the unlimited works perfectly.
Basically in this nomenclature, your 4-4 balancer would be "4-4 Unlimited Throughput".
Anyway, now we got a 2-2 Full-Thoughput Balancer and a 4-4 Full-Thoughput Balancer
I was not happy with the fact that both of these balancers do not guarantee the output of items to happen in an alternate way, from every available input lane. So I came up with a new 2-2 Full-Thoughput Alternator design, which I have also posted on that thread referenced by Trebor: viewtopic.php?p=545588#p545588
It is this monstrosity, which works like a charm:
Perfect, good catch! I further improved the compactness of the design, still maintaining all of its original properties, allowing it now to be crossed by other belts.
