Gleba science pack research micronmanagement solution

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Re: Gleba science pack research micronmanagement solution

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EustaceCS wrote:
Fri Nov 01, 2024 7:18 pm
Option 4: overproduce Gleba packs and make some room for spoilage discarding at non-Gleba research destination. Will need few platforms working as express deliveries. In this case you might need a source of spoilage on Navius anyway due to one Research related endgame tech...
Option 5: relocate your main research hub to Gleba.
Option 6: blitz through mandatory Gleba tech, forget until post-Aquilo, do Gleba-related (spoilers: there aint many) repeatables until satisfied, forget until next urge to do Gleba-related repeatables.
These options don't fix the problem. Option 4 just means you experience the problem for less time. Option 5 doesn't fix the problem at all, you're just left with being forced to switch your labs constantly on Gleba, instead of being forced to switch your labs constantly on Nauvis. Option 6 is even more explicitly trying to solve a gameplay problem by not playing the game.

The issue occurs wherever you do Gleba researches, however you transport them, and however long you take to do so. You can't take advantage of science production on Gleba and science production on other planets at the same time without some excessive manual micromanagement.

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Re: Gleba science pack research micronmanagement solution

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EustaceCS wrote:
Fri Nov 01, 2024 7:18 pm
MeduSalem wrote:
Fri Nov 01, 2024 5:51 pm
Albeit in Factorio it is definitely worse,
Goodness gracious, Factorio is worse than the game which is excellent for UI shittiness benchmarking.
I probably once again ended up at the wrong side of the mirror.
Let's return to this comparison once/if HoI IV would get queue'able researches, OK?
While decades pass, I suggest pondering if it's appropriate to try to make a very specific trick giving very little for a lot of effort pass for a commonly used practice.

On-topic, what problem are we trying to discuss, anyway?
Feather wrote:
Fri Oct 18, 2024 1:42 am
They can choose between 3 things
NEVER researching gleba tech so they don't need gleba science packs
ALWAYS researching gleba tech so they don't need to keep track of the shipments
OR keep track of the shipments which just sounds like a huge hassle and will force them to drop whatever they were doing to prioritise gleba research and deprioritise it after all of the science packs have been used
Option 4: overproduce Gleba packs and make some room for spoilage discarding at non-Gleba research destination. Will need few platforms working as express deliveries. In this case you might need a source of spoilage on Navius anyway due to one Research related endgame tech...
Option 5: relocate your main research hub to Gleba.
Option 6: blitz through mandatory Gleba tech, forget until post-Aquilo, do Gleba-related (spoilers: there aint many) repeatables until satisfied, forget until next urge to do Gleba-related repeatables.

Depending on how hard would you like to commit, different options are differently viable.
I didn't made it to Gleba yet, but I as filthy casual am considering variant 5: keep research (and ONLY research) on Gleba.

Upd.
Option 7 exists. Crazy enough. But I'm really tempted to try it in my current playthrough.
You see, nothing prevents you from building research labs on space platforms.
As all generic (read: space + Nauvis) packs can be created from widely available omnipresent swarm of asteroids, and since you need to do something to transfer planet specific packs between planets for combo researches anyway...
Why not making your main research hub interplanetary?
Space platform en route still can do researches (among other things).
So fill your platform's cargo with 1h worth of Gleba packs and go visit other planets while labs do lab things!
And if you'll be ready to expand your science-per-minute - just build one more.
And one more.
And one more...

Comes with a benefit of letting you dedicate more planetary space for actual crafting. Ergo, less Demolishers wrangling, less icebergs heating... less dying to that dastardly pixel of terrain which none of three neighbouring lightning attractors covered all of a sudden...
my brother in christ, you missed the point so hard you started talking about hoi4, I shouldn't've mentioed gleba in the original post and the only reason I did was to highlight the issue of having to requeue research every time an imported science pack arrives, christ, this is not a gleba issue, this is a 'I don't want to sit in the research ui this much/babysit the science packs' issue

one word, hyperbole

a different idea I had was to replace the research queue with a blacklist/whitelist/priority system (this would also require making labs able to research stuff independently)
blacklist - never research
whitelist - reserach cheapest whitelisted
priority - research regardless of cost

but this sounds way less reasonable than making labs able to skip through the queue based on available pots, so obviously I went with the other one

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