Thought I had done sufficient checks for this :3Yehn wrote:Also, I found a little bug, in this case if I filter fish on my quickbar. I think maybe, check if a recipe for the item exists first..? Since this might happen on other things that aren't craftable too.. x.x
Yes it's not really needed when you have logistics. Can still be useful though in some cases. I hope I can do some small tweaks so that it's not in the way. Better that you don't feel that you have to disable it in case you have multiple saves and so on.Yehn wrote:I think a hotkey would be easiest. I kind of plan to uninstall the mod once I get logistics, at least until I start another new map-- what I'm really liking this for is early game, it's just so convenient.
Yes it's possible! HandyHands 1.1.0 is now releasedYehn wrote:Quick question... can this be turned off for specific items, while still keeping them filtered on my quickbar? For example, if I automate belt production, I don't want to hand craft them anymore, but I still want them filtered on my quickbar since they're used so much... but maybe I want to keep splitters automatically hand crafting because I haven't automated those yet, and so on.
zebediah49 wrote:I tried this mod out, and overall really liked it. However, I found that in most cases it would make every item used take an extra slot. This is because either a) you accidentally place and remove an extra item, or b) the item is crafted in units of two.
Personally I solved this by having it craft when less than 80% full, rather than 100%. It works nicely, and suggest considering either adjusting it by default (maybe 90%?), or putting in an option for this.
Qon wrote: Try out 1.1.0
Didn't read your post before I released it (No notifications at this forum, that's why I recommend the homepage/thread at the factorio forums). So for now 0.5 stacks is the smaller-than-one stack size limit available. Try it and tell me what you think. I will consider another setting between 0 and 1 at about 0.8-0.9 stacks once I have figured out how to do migrations correctly
zebediah49 wrote:I had to double-check the timestamps, because I actually noticed the update, and read the changelog on my way to re-do that change. I like it, although something larger and smaller within a single stack would be nice. I noticed myself wanting to use it, for (for example) assembly machines in early game, when affording 25 of them is still an excessive proposition. Perhaps like 5 or 10 (or both, if it's easy). 0/5/10/25/45.
I think the settings between 0 and 1 stacks will very quickly become obsolete and then having a lot of them will be a big annoyance when you want to turn off autocrafting of a specific items when you have to scroll past all the tiny sizes. Probably bigger annoyance than manually starting your crafting of a few assembly machines before you can afford 25 which is a brief period. I want to keep the interface minimal and the amount of hotkeys to a minimum too since it's a hassle to keep track of set up many of them while also avoiding collisions. 25%, 50% and 75% already seems a bit excessive to me. 20% and 80% (removing 50%) might work well. Tell me what you think of this once you've had a stack of 50 assemblers for a whilezebediah49 wrote:I had to double-check the timestamps, because I actually noticed the update, and read the changelog on my way to re-do that change. I like it, although something larger and smaller within a single stack would be nice. I noticed myself wanting to use it, for (for example) assembly machines in early game, when affording 25 of them is still an excessive proposition. Perhaps like 5 or 10 (or both, if it's easy). 0/5/10/25/45.
Nice thing this autocraft stack amount. The fact is that I (and other users I know) are using a mod that increase stack size very much. So a percentage remains big... In early stage, I would be much interested by hotkeys fixing an absolute autocraft stack size, like 0,5,10,25,50 but not a percentage.Qon wrote:HandyHands v1.1.0 now allows you to change autocraft stack amount (default and for individual items) with hotkeys. [0, .5, 1, 2, 3, 4] stacks are possible but I might change the 0.5 to instead have 0.2 and 0.8 or similar. Would this help in the very early game? 0.2 stacks would be 10 items for all the stack size 50 items.]
Hmm. I rely on stack size to prioritise which item to craft first. If you have 4 roboports (80% of a stack) and 10 inserters (20% of a stack) then I want HandyHands to craft inserters first because the amount you need buffered in your inventory is fairly related to stack sizes. You use 10 inserters very quickly but 4 roboports is a big amount. And if I used absolute values then you would need individual settings for every stack instead of it being like it is now where the default of 1 stack (or change default and it changes for every item) is a good amount for everything so the hotkeys are not needed for it to work well, less hassle.binbinhfr wrote:Nice thing this autocraft stack amount. The fact is that I (and other users I know) are using a mod that increase stack size very much. So a percentage remains big... In early stage, I would be much interested by hotkeys fixing an absolute autocraft stack size, like 0,5,10,25,50 but not a percentage.Qon wrote:HandyHands v1.1.0 now allows you to change autocraft stack amount (default and for individual items) with hotkeys. [0, .5, 1, 2, 3, 4] stacks are possible but I might change the 0.5 to instead have 0.2 and 0.8 or similar. Would this help in the very early game? 0.2 stacks would be 10 items for all the stack size 50 items.]
I'm curious to see how you will do this, but yes, it could be great. In the other hand, large stack sizes are useful for trains, chests, etc...Qon wrote:Would you use vanilla stack sizes if you had infinite stack sizes in your inventory only (amount of items saved in memory as a number and inventory would only keep about 1 stack)?
Buffers are bad you know q: I've avoided stack size modifying mods because I don't want chests and trains to store more. Just a hassle to deal with and doesn't increase production which is my bottom line.binbinhfr wrote:I'm curious to see how you will do this, but yes, it could be great. In the other hand, large stack sizes are useful for trains, chests, etc...Qon wrote:Would you use vanilla stack sizes if you had infinite stack sizes in your inventory only (amount of items saved in memory as a number and inventory would only keep about 1 stack)?
It is ordered by percentage of order filled.zebediah49 wrote:Could you order by percentage of order filled, rather than by stack size? Possibly reverting to stacks if the request is more than one?
So, score = (number_available)/min(number_requested, stack_size), lowest score wins.
I think Big Bags and similar are popular mods, but it doesn't work well with HandyHands since it works with stack sizes which are altered by those other mods to silly levels. (Well I changed concrete and landfill stack size to 1M with another mod but still q:). So popular demand is smaller autocraft limits and better compatability with stack size changing mods. I'm considering absolute amounts but it's not clear how that would work combined with stack size amounts. How to switch between them when there's only 2 hotkeys? And having absolute amounts only is not that good because then you can't have a default amount that works pretty well for everything. I want the hotkeys to be optional if possible.zebediah49 wrote:Also, it looks like popular demand is for a second set of adjusted hotkeys for manipulating items rather than stacks; possibly by 5's for speed. That would solve my issue (I could go one-stack -5 items for case (a) or zero-stacks +5 items for case (b)), as well as the other issue of people with enormous stack sizes, by just setting it to (zero-stack + 50 items).
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if p.character and p.auto_trash_filters[item] thenOh thanks. I had done quick god mode testing before and thought it worked. Thought today "I really should do some proper god mode testing and other edge cases." but then I didn't do it because I remembered that it didn't crash on char nil before. So I read your post and thought "Ouch, I should have done god mode tests again". So I did now. Result: v1.1.1 released q:mindmix wrote:Errors when the player doesn't have a character, like when playing in god mode. Easily fixed by adding a check on line 42 (in version 1.1.0), like so:
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Yeah. But I think coarse only is 'fine'zebediah49 wrote:With only two hotkeys -- harder. It would be easier with four, for 'coarse' and 'fine' (i/k and shift-i/k, for example).
Yeah powers of 2 might not be the best. Exponentials grow a bit too quickly above 100 while having quite alot of steps among the smaller numbers. Stack sizes in factorio are mostly [5,10,50,100,200] so those are good candidates with maybe some numbers inbetween. Would be something like [2,5,10,20,35,50,80,100,150,200,300,400]. Relying on stack sizes is so much simpler though...zebediah49 wrote: You could use a discretized logarithm pattern -- human-friendly multiples of things.
For example, rather than powers of two, you can split it again to get powers of sqrt(2), but round so that instead of 1.41*1.41 you have 1.5*1.33 ---- 1, 1.5, 2, 3, 4, 6, 8, ...
I would propose one of the base-10 ones, such as --
1, 3, 10, ...
1, 2, 5, 10, ....
Or, specifically for Factorio,
0, 1, 2, 3, 5, 10, 20, 40, 50, 75, 100, ...?
