[Wish] Added delay before switching over to another location's music in remote view

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[Wish] Added delay before switching over to another location's music in remote view

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It would be nice to keep playing the current music for a while instead of immediately switching over to another planet's music. I often visit Vulcanus and then have to check something at home real quick and the music restarts twice which really besmirches both musical pieces.

Just have the music player wait for 30 seconds before putting on new record. That way a short look somewhere else won't jerk the music around.

The music is amazing btw. I look forward to reaching the rest of the planets. :)
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When switching surfaces the music transitions thusly: fade out of the current tracks, pause (silence), fade in of a new track.
The duration of each step is controlled by utility constants, so a mod could change them. For example with increased fade out duration the music wouldn't restart twice if you go back to the first planet quick enough.

But I recognize this is not exactly what you're asking for. I will consider adding a timeout step before the fade out (probably with zero duration by default, so you would still need to modify it). The current way was chosen as a compromise between immediate feedback of switching surfaces and too many music changes when switching surfaces quickly and often.
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Oh wow, thank you for reading my suggestion. The changes sound good and a corresponding mod should be doable.
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Post by Amegatron »

I heavily second this wish. Currently, once you leave Nauvis, you truly just can't listen to music, because you need to constantly switch between locations. Not only you just can't enjoy otherwise nice music, it begins to distrub you or make even angry :( Like, you switch to one place, the music started to play and already caught your attention or even started to carry away with corresponding mood. But you then quickly switch to the platform to just press ESC if you were in remote view, and that's it. The music got interrupted which does not add joy.

I would consider this topic as a possible solution: viewtopic.php?f=6&t=119140.
Or even better: let us explicitely chose which theme to play once the corresponding area has been discovered.
I also believe it should be fixed in vanilla SA, and not by mods, even tho they may add some more advanced controls. That is because from my POV currently all the efforts spent on creating this music look like worthless, because at least I personally had to switch the music off, unfortunately.

PS. I think I found a partial workaround/lifehack for myself. We can make a bind to pause the music (unbound by default). And while it is paused, you can switch to another view, and once back - resume the playback. This is definitely not a solution, but at least it partially helps me now :)
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Re: [Wish] Added delay before switching over to another location's music in remote view

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+1 on this so much. Adding a delay before the music changes. Can be short, 5 or 10 seconds. Ideally allowing it to be modded.

I begin to dread changing surfaces just to copy something because it stops and starts my music. Especially if I'm getting in the groove of building Vulcanus things with cool Vulcanus music, need to check something on a different planet that takes 3 seconds, and BAM, mood is gone.
The current way was chosen as a compromise between immediate feedback of switching surfaces
The whole screen changing colour to a planet with different colour schemes and a different factory is a whole lot of feedback already :D
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Re: [Wish] Added delay before switching over to another location's music in remote view

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Currently I'm thinking a delay of 5-10 seconds before a music transition starts and moving the duration definitions from utility-constants.lua to hidden sound settings.
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For 2.0.21 (the next release) I've added a delay before music transition happens, it's 8 seconds by default.
The duration of each music transition stage is configurable using hidden sound settings

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music-transition-delay-ticks
music-transition-fade-out-ticks
music-transition-pause-ticks
music-transition-fade-in-ticks
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Re: [Wish] Added delay before switching over to another location's music in remote view

Post by kizrak »

I'd really like the behavior to be keep playing the current song/music until that song finishes, then pick the next song based on my current (remote view) location.

I never want a song to cut off early but I also want to be able to experience all of the songs without having to make any manual switch, as a naturally/organically switch (remove view) locations.

If I set `music-transition-delay-ticks` to `216000` or some other combination of settings allow me to achieve this? 🎶

Thanks!
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kizrak wrote: Fri Nov 22, 2024 3:48 am If I set `music-transition-delay-ticks` to `216000` or some other combination of settings allow me to achieve this? 🎶
Yes, setting the delay to some huge number will do what you want, the current song will finish and a new one based on the current surface you're looking at will start.
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Post by Amegatron »

Thank you a lot for these settings! I'm now finally enjoying the music in-game :) I first set this delay to about 2000 ticks + increased fade-out, and transitions already became smooth to me, that I didn't really even notice them (tracks don't hastily interrupt on one hand, and on the other hand they still switch to another track if I've been "looking" at another surface for quite a long). But I now also set this delay to a huge number, so that tracks don't interrupt at all and finish over time. Also looks good to me.
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Post by Gearfoot »

Thanks a lot for adding this! Btw: Factory Managers can easily change these hidden settings by clicking with Ctrl+Alt on the Settings button.
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Re: [Wish] Added delay before switching over to another location's music in remote view

Post by Nemoricus »

I quite appreciate having the delay setting. It makes the music feel less chaotic if you're frequently flipping between worlds and platforms.
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