Setting Lazy bastard achievement to bare minimum

[lamanchy]

Hi guys,

I just wanted to try the lazy way and the limit is above the minimum, why so? I mean, unless you do it on 99 items, you're not lazy enough and don't deserve anything.

(And just because of this suggestion I created factorio account, cha, so much work to be really lazy...)

[OdinYggd]

The achievement allows some room for error because it isn't exactly obvious what handcrafts are required and what aren't. So you are given a few extra handcrafts above the absolute perfect in order to speed things along and in case you get in a bind and handcrafting one thing would be an easy fix.

I got it myself with 100 handcrafts, so if perfect is actually 99 I couldn't tell you where the extra handcraft cycle went.

[lamanchy]

I know, some room is pleasant, in case you craft something "by mistake", but it's like when playing belt challenge, and in case you REALLY don't know, you can use bit of water. For me, it takes away the challenge, especially when 99 is a bit tricky.

How to do 99

You have a stone furnace, which you can use to make a boiler instead of crafting new one.

It's not even here https://www.reddit.com/r/factorio/comme ... _crafting/ and if set to 99 for many people it could be interesting challenge.

But it's just a suggestion

[OdinYggd]

I know, some room is pleasant, in case you craft something "by mistake", but it's like when playing belt challenge, and in case you REALLY don't know, you can use bit of water. For me, it takes away the challenge, especially when 99 is a bit tricky.

How to do 99

You have a stone furnace, which you can use to make a boiler instead of crafting new one.

It's not even here https://www.reddit.com/r/factorio/comme ... _crafting/ and if set to 99 for many people it could be interesting challenge.

But it's just a suggestion

Not really a trick- it says right in the boiler recipie to do that.

Lazy Bastard trick list

• Use the furnace as a chest initially to allow the mining of several stacks of each material type with minimal effort and only some patience.
• Consume this furnace into the first boiler.
• Put everything you can into getting Assember 2 unlocked as fast as possible, since this is able to produce almost all of what you need.
• You only need one oil refinery, since they can only be handcrafted until you have Assembler 3. Be efficient with how you use its output.
• Logi bots are your friend. Once you get them the tedious back and forth goes away completely, you have everything you need at all times.

[daniel34]

To my knowledge the minimum is 100, and that already includes using the starter stone furnace. I compiled this list by starting a new game with only the raw materials (plates), then crafted the necessary items and wrote down the crafting queue:

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Wooden pole (3)
    1x wooden board
    1x copper cable
    1x pole

Offshore pump (8)
    3x copper cable
    2x electric circuit
    1x pipe
    1x gear wheel
    1x offshore pump

Boiler (2)
    1x pipe
    1x boiler

Steam engine (11)
    5x gear wheel
    5x pipe
    1x steam engine

--> Power setup: 24

Lab (40)
    15x copper cable
    10x electric circuit
    12x gear wheel
    2x transport belt
    1x lab

Science pack 1 (20)
    10x gear wheel
    10x science pack 1

--> Science + Automation: 60

Assembling machine 1 (14)
    5x copper cable
    3x electric circuit
    5x gear wheel
    1x assembler

Assembling machine 2 (1)
Oil Refinery (1)

--> Machines: 16

24x Power
60x Science
16x Machines
------------
100 total

That aside I really think the achievement should allow for some room in case you want to make a pickaxe or some additional crafts or simply craft something by accident, or as kovarex put it:

I calculated the count of items needed, and it was 101 I believe, so I added 10, so you don't have to painfully wait for ever with one mining drill etc. until the automation 2 is researched.