alternative pollution color

[drs9999]

I just watched a lets play of factorio(1) in which all the new awesome stuff was shown.
But because the player is colorblind it was very hard for him to see the pollution on the mapscreen.

So you might want to add an option or something to alter the pollutuon color.


(1)http://www.youtube.com/user/TheNoobsKanal/videos (if you are german or at least understand some of the language, you might want to check out his channel.

[Dakkanor]

i would suggest having a hatched pattern as an option, less asthetically pleasing but more available to the colourblind i imagine

[Jormungandr]

I second this! I'm red-green colourblind so it would be nice to be able to change the pollution colour to something else. I am sure that could even been worked into game mechanics, IE you need to interact with a radar array or something like that. About the only way I can tell that I am polluting is to ask someone else, or when the Biters show up.

[kovarex]

We didn't think of this. There is way for you to check it out as well, you can press F4, and set the pollution_values option, you can see numbers representing the pollution in individual chunks.

[Yes-Man]

Besides having the screen full of numbers and no FPS left, is there another solution yet (or maybe on the horizon)?
At least make the pollution overlay mod-able (as I understand it, the texture cannot be replaced at the moment).
A general 'colorblind' option in the graphic settings would be nice.

PS: I already used mods for cables, modules (speed vs productivity :/) and ores.

[deepdriller]

I've done changes to in-game colours for the colourblind in the past, can I help?
I could change the colour to something completely different, or to the previously-mentioned hatched pattern. Just tell me what exactly you're looking for.
Just as an intermediate solution until the devs sort this out.

[ssilk]

Added to viewtopic.php?f=80&t=22760 Support for Color Blinds / Better Visibility ...

[deepdriller]

At least make the pollution overlay mod-able (as I understand it, the texture cannot be replaced at the moment).

It actually can be, and I just did as a proof of concept.

This actually looks kind of nice, though might interfere with map elements. Though I might keep it.

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What you might say is that it can't be modded the regular way. You have to edit data/core/graphics/pollution-visualization.png manually. If you want to change that file to what I just have, here it is:

Took me, what, five seconds in GIMP?

pollution-visualization.png (164 Bytes) Viewed 8339 times

Again, if that's not what you want, contact me.

[Rseding91]

In 0.15 all of these kinds of images are gotten through the data.lua system so mods can change them if they want without having to modify the base game files.

[Shaymes]

aye this blue Pollution fog is much easier to see then the red one

[Deadly-Bagel]

We didn't think of this. There is way for you to check it out as well, you can press F4, and set the pollution_values option, you can see numbers representing the pollution in individual chunks.

I've tried this and it's unreadable, maybe if it were 2-3 decimal places but the numbers from each chunk overlap into the next chunk if you zoom out to any reasonable distance and it's hard to get an overview.

In 0.15 all of these kinds of images are gotten through the data.lua system so mods can change them if they want without having to modify the base game files.

Mods are great but they disable achievements. This really should be in vanilla, colour deficiency isn't exactly rare.

[Yes-Man]

At least make the pollution overlay mod-able (as I understand it, the texture cannot be replaced at the moment).

It actually can be, and I just did as a proof of concept.

20170213193436_1.jpg

What you might say is that it can't be modded the regular way. You have to edit data/core/graphics/pollution-visualization.png manually. If you want to change that file to what I just have, here it is:

pollution-visualization.png

Again, if that's not what you want, contact me.

I like it very much. Just fyi, I've seen a white/lightgrey one some time back and it looked great.
As far as I can remember, modifying the base files leads to MP desync, right?
But it's good to hear, that there will be the possibility to mod this as soon as 0.15 arrives.
So here is my mod idea: take 'Colorblind UI Enhancements', add your pollution overlay and BAM! ^^

[daniel34]

As far as I can remember, modifying the base files leads to MP desync, right?

It only leads to a desync if it changes the gamestate, and modifying graphics doesn't do that.

You can get problems when updating though. Steam will replace them with the original files if it updates the game and verifying the game integrity will also reset them. I'm not sure how the Factorio updater handles this but it might stop you from updating the game.

[posila]

I'm not sure how the Factorio updater handles this but it might stop you from updating the game.

It doesn't handle it well ... it causes updater to fail and you'll need to download new installer/zip to fix it.

[Xeanoa]

At least make the pollution overlay mod-able (as I understand it, the texture cannot be replaced at the moment).

It actually can be, and I just did as a proof of concept.
20170213193436_1.jpg
What you might say is that it can't be modded the regular way. You have to edit data/core/graphics/pollution-visualization.png manually. If you want to change that file to what I just have, here it is:

pollution-visualization.png

Again, if that's not what you want, contact me.

The faintest blue is almost invisible in contrast to the green. Same would happen with yellow. Red doesn't have this problem.

[Deadly-Bagel]

The faintest blue is almost invisible in contrast to the green. Same would happen with yellow. Red doesn't have this problem.

Unless you're colourblind and can't see red........

On the contrary the faintest shade of blue is extremely visible to me.

[deepdriller]

The faintest blue is almost invisible in contrast to the green. Same would happen with yellow. Red doesn't have this problem.

I know what you're saying. I could do reduce the alpha channel to make it more visible.

I like it very much. Just fyi, I've seen a white/lightgrey one some time back and it looked great

Like this?

Meh, I like the blue one better.

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Again, here's the relevant file.

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[Xeanoa]

The faintest blue is almost invisible in contrast to the green. Same would happen with yellow. Red doesn't have this problem.

I know what you're saying. I could do reduce the alpha channel to make it more visible.

I like it very much. Just fyi, I've seen a white/lightgrey one some time back and it looked great

Like this?
20170216170513_1.jpg
Again, here's the relevant file.

pollution-visualization.png

That's like best version. Easily visible even at low opacity, doesn't obscure content as much as red, and it works for colourblind and colour deficient people.