Add stone to some asteroid crushing recipe

[tsevasa]

TL;DR

Add stone as a byproduct to some asteroid crushing recipe, so that stone can be naturally obtained on space platforms.

What?

Currently, it is possible to obtain iron, copper, calcite, coal, water and all oil products on space platforms from asteroid chunk crushing recipes and their derivatives. However, it is impossible to obtain stone on space platforms without using rocket launches. Suggestion: change some asteroid crushing recipe or add a new recipe in order to also allow for infinite stone generation on space platforms.

Why?

Three main reasons:

• This change would make space platforms much more self sufficient and allow them to also efficiently produce military science and production science, as well as oil refineries, chemical plants, walls, furnaces, etc. This would allow for interesting challenge games where players can make gigantic self-sufficient space platforms that produce all non-planet-specific science packs.
• Extra logistical challenge from having to deal with an extra byproduct in space.
• Stony-type asteroids are the second most common type of asteroid in real life. From that standpoint, stone could maybe be an extra byproduct of advanced oxide asteroid crushing?

Admittedly, this would be a large change post-release and it might already be too late for it anyways, now that people have already built their space platforms. But maybe it is a nice idea to keep in mind for the future? Or do you think that stone in space is too useless in most cases?

[Stargateur]

can't agree more

[AileTheAlien]

I don't mind breaking peoples' existing platforms, since the cost of a platform is a lot less than the other stuff it's transporting over many trips. Plus, spaceships already need to have at least half-way intelligent circuit conditions set up, to either not catch or crush certain asteroids, or throw overflow materials overboard. Rocks in space plz.

[HadesSupreme]

I find mass space mining and construction kind of cheesy and annoying since its infinitely scalable and clutters the ship list respectively. But I respect that doing so is an interesting alternative way to play the game and stone being the one resource you can't get in space feels logically ridiculous.

[mooklepticon]

I agree that it feels weird that you can't get stone in space.

I can see that it's a gameplay hurdle (gleba and aquilo have stone issues), but it feels counterintuitive that space doesn't have rocks. We can send infinite iron, carbon, ice etc... But not regular old rocks.

[CyberCider]

Infinite stone generation is possible, here’s how to do it:
1) Make calcite, plastic and rocket fuel from asteroids
2) Drop them onto Vulcanus
3) Use the calcite to do lava processing, it will produce the stone you need as well as some metals
4) Use the metals and the oil products you dropped from space to build a rocket
5) Launch the stone into space

Lava is infinite, calcite came from asteroids, which makes all of this 100% renewable.

I know it’s not very elegant, and technically not entirely in space… But it works

[Nemoricus]

Plus, spaceships already need to have at least half-way intelligent circuit conditions set up, to either not catch or crush certain asteroids, or throw overflow materials overboard. Rocks in space plz.

None of my platforms use circuits for that.

[Yodo]

+1 I would like to see silicate/S-type asteroids in the game.

Meanwhile, there are some mods that already add a way to get stone in space:
Rocky Asteroids
Stone From Oxide
Advanced Asteroid Reprocessing
More Asteroid Resources, Forked

[Khazul]

Anything breaking existing space age builds? Hard NO!

Breaking build may be fine for folks who spent 5 minutes designing a barely functioning scrappy ship, but ultra annoying for anyone who may have spent ages designing tightly laid out ships that just would not have any room to cope with such change without a total from scratch redesign.


Adding a new recipe to the crusher to extract stone - yes agree. It would at least mean that walls can be made on board.
I would also quite like a means to get Uranium in space as well while we are at it.

I suspect however that the existing recipes and asteroid types were considered as a bare minimum for a functioning ship for space science and ammo crafting with the intent being to have to make everything else on planets to avoid people having a huge factory hovering over every planet to make anything that may be needed and thus not really having to deal with interplanetary logistics and/or solve local production problems and especially not having to make provide millions of rocket parts in silos.