Interface Request: Hide minimap when hovering an entity

[Molay]

There is a mod that does that, I can't quite recall the name currently as I'm playing unmodded.
Basically, when hovering over an entity, like say a power pole, the minimap collapses.
Why? This makes it so the entity UI beneath where the minimap is, is no longer cut off, and can be read in full. This is made worse when using the remote view, and when being on a space platform for example, because the additional information in the column of the minimap also takes up space, like Add Tag, Add Ping, Stopped at Planet X, Speed, Weight.

Without this feature, it's often impossible to tell what is on the bottom of the UI, including what may be in a roboport network, or other useful information.

I'll add two screenshots to illustrate

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As you can see, with the minimap hidden, there's lots of useful information.

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In the interface option, there is an option to hide the minimap. I.e., do not tick "show minimap".
I request an option to "Show minimap, but hide if hovering something" (obviously better wording).

Thank you.

[legendddhgf]

Not sure about hiding the minimap specifically but I can't even see how much ore is under a miner when hovering it in remote view, seemingly because of the horizontal bar at the top displacing text that is there. Happens for anything hovered in remote view. Picture attached.

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[legendddhgf]

Correction, the UI is outside of my view even without remote view (in this case the electricity info is unviewable for what I am hovering), and in this case it seems to be my pins that have pushed it down:

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[boskid]

No, not really... this exact idea (hiding when hovering entity) was tested during our lan party in september and almost everyone hated it to the point we did a hotfix removal of it. There are also practical use cases of not hiding minimap like seeing radar coverage when building them. Universal solution is to disable tooltip on side so it shows under the cursor, it takes some yime to get used to but it is solving a lot of issues like this.

[Hares]

No, not really... this exact idea (hiding when hovering entity) was tested during our lan party in september and almost everyone hated it to the point we did a hotfix removal of it. There are also practical use cases of not hiding minimap like seeing radar coverage when building them. Universal solution is to disable tooltip on side so it shows under the cursor, it takes some yime to get used to but it is solving a lot of issues like this.

Agree with OP that this is the problem; I suggest addition a setting to move pins to the left instead of letting them be on the right "stack".

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I even ended up reducing interface size to 75% which is almost miserable (literally).

Update:
I know that option "show hovering entity info" exists, but it's not as useful as the one to the right. I would suggest leaving where it is now.

[keentom]

This was even a problem in 1.0
I think it would be good to change something about not seeing the tooltip in full. It's way worse on smaller resolutions/higher UI scale setting.

Spitting a few ideas:

• autoscroll after 2 seconds delay

• add a scollbar that lets you scroll with arrow keys/page up/down

• Hide minimap as an opt-in option

• add a key that lets you pin the tooltip as long as its pressed so you can move the mouse over to scroll

[kpreid]

+1 — I also would like an option to hide the minimap when hovering (at least if the "entity tooltip" is tall). I'd also like the list of pins to be hidden at the same time, since it could be arbitrarily tall.

[BlueTemplar]

There is a mod that does that, I can't quite recall the name currently as I'm playing unmodded.
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Probably Picker Auto Hide Minimap from Picker Extended Version,
though it specifically only does it for logistic containers :

[Molay]

No, not really... this exact idea (hiding when hovering entity) was tested during our lan party in september and almost everyone hated it to the point we did a hotfix removal of it. There are also practical use cases of not hiding minimap like seeing radar coverage when building them. Universal solution is to disable tooltip on side so it shows under the cursor, it takes some yime to get used to but it is solving a lot of issues like this.

I've been using this that last week. It's sometimes a bit annoying as it can hide things you want to see while hovering an entity, but it's mostly very useful and I've already gotten quite used to it. Also frees up a lot of space for pins under the minimap. Was good advice boskid! Any chance we could get a different feature? Like, how pressing alt toggles showing things like splitter priorities, recipes, etc. Can you let us a map a key to "toggle tooltip"? So for those rare cases where I want to see something down the lower right of where I'm hovering, I could quickly toggle it off and back on after. Would be neat QOL!

Edit: I also checked the mod I used previously. It's called "Expand Tooltip". Sadly not updated. So tooltip on cursor it is for now

[Stargateur]

No, not really... this exact idea (hiding when hovering entity) was tested during our lan party in september and almost everyone hated it to the point we did a hotfix removal of it. There are also practical use cases of not hiding minimap like seeing radar coverage when building them. Universal solution is to disable tooltip on side so it shows under the cursor, it takes some yime to get used to but it is solving a lot of issues like this.

Oh this exist, I will try

[jockeril]

I was thinking about this lately when I returned to play due to the expansion and my thought was that we should have a toggle (and possibly a hotkey) to hide the minimap - I found myself going into the settings during game sessions to hide and then show the minimap just to be able to see more information but the process is cumbersome to the point that I thought "why doesn't that have a keybind ?" and "I should suggest Wube to add that"... and here we are

[Factoruser]

Two better solutions:
1. Align the button of the informations box to the screen bottom instead of aligning its head to the bottom of the minimap.
2. Add a "show/hide minimap" button into the minimap menu, and a "hotkey" like Shift+M...

[ikarikeiji]

+1ish, because...

I don't want "auto-hide minimap while hovering an entity", I want "auto-hide everything on the right EXCEPT the minimap when hovering an entity".

So: While hovering, hide research, hide the buttons under research, and hide the pins. Leave the minimap visible for reasons explained above, that you want this for radars and some other use cases.

Of course this should be optional too, as not everyone is going to want it.

[Hares]

+1ish, because...

I don't want "auto-hide minimap while hovering an entity", I want "auto-hide everything on the right EXCEPT the minimap when hovering an entity".

So: While hovering, hide research, hide the buttons under research, and hide the pins (and any other things beneath the map). Leave the minimap visible for reasons explained above, that you want this for radars and some other use cases.

Of course this should be optional too, as not everyone is going to want it.

Maybe only hide pins widget to avoid minimap jumping when moving from hovering over an entity to no overing over it. Especially important when moving your mouse through the factory.

[ikarikeiji]

I only have 2 pins at the moment, so that wouldn't give me much extra space. Even with 0 pins some things don't show the full tooltip - e.g. logistic network storage.

An alternative solution to avoid the minimap jumping around would simply be to put the minimap at the top.