Upgrade planner to Replace planner (ctrl+H)

[pichutarius]

tldr
change upgrade planner to replace planner, allow entities to be replaced by other entities of same size.

why
1. we have cut, copy, paste. what is the next useful tool? replace (ctrl+H)
2. useful in other mods, especially creative mod. eg: void requester chest <-> normal requester chest

[NotRexButCaesar]

Just so you know, the autotorio website exists.

[ssilk]

Just so you know, the autotorio website exists.

That’s nice, but is off topic!

[bormand]

Why? I can't think about any situation where it would be useful to replace entity to a totally unrelated entity....

Upgrade planner already allows to replace anything belonging to the same fast-replace group. If the mod doesn't set proper group for a void requester chest, it's a problem on the mod side, imho.

[Koub]

Just so you know, the autotorio website exists.

That’s nice, but is off topic!

Well ... No : it allows to do exactly what OP is asking for.

[bormand]

useful in other mods, especially creative mod. eg: void requester chest <-> normal requester chest

Well, they already in the same fast-replace group, just hidden. Check "unhide items" in the creative mod settings and you will be able to use them in upgrade planner.

[Kyralessa]

It would probably help to have some concrete examples of where this would be useful.

[pichutarius]

Just so you know, the autotorio website exists.

only works for vanilla.

Why? I can't think about any situation where it would be useful to replace entity to a totally unrelated entity....

Upgrade planner already allows to replace anything belonging to the same fast-replace group. If the mod doesn't set proper group for a void requester chest, it's a problem on the mod side, imho.

not much in vanilla, maybe long/short inserter.
in mods, instead of expecting every mod-author do it properly, replace planner sounds like a more elegant solution, but thats just my opinion.
the argument against it might be clutterness, maybe a small checkbox "more items" somewhere in upgrade planner UI.

Well, they already in the same fast-replace group, just hidden. Check "unhide items" in the creative mod settings and you will be able to use them in upgrade planner.

thank you! if i had found this earlier, i probably wont make this suggestion.

It would probably help to have some concrete examples of where this would be useful.

creative mods.

[bormand]

instead of expecting every mod-author do it properly, replace planner sounds like a more elegant solution

I dunno, most mods already do it properly. It's a very important property, manual fast-replace doesn't work without it too and upgrading to next tier becomes a hell.

[Kyralessa]

It would probably help to have some concrete examples of where this would be useful.

creative mods.

I wouldn't call that a concrete example. What would you replace with what?

[pichutarius]

I wouldn't call that a concrete example. What would you replace with what?

viewtopic.php?p=536085#p536085

When designing this i frequently need to swap between vanilla entity with CM variant, for stress testing and checking bottleneck.

Example would be roboports, various chest, labs.

[Kyralessa]

I wouldn't call that a concrete example. What would you replace with what?

viewtopic.php?p=536085#p536085

When designing this i frequently need to swap between vanilla entity with CM variant, for stress testing and checking bottleneck.

Example would be roboports, various chest, labs.

You're talking about this mod?

https://mods.factorio.com/mod/creative-mod

Couldn't this be fixed in the mod if it designated its versions of things as fast-replace for the normal versions?

[pichutarius]

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Yes. See previous discussion. viewtopic.php?p=536124#p536124.

[Kyralessa]

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Yes. See previous discussion. viewtopic.php?p=536124#p536124.

Oh, sorry about that. I missed the import of that exchange.