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Which version is the wiki supposed to be about

Postby plugwash » Sat May 27, 2017 2:32 am

Is the wiki supposed to be about the current stable version or the current experimental version? It seems that currently most pages are correct for the stable version but a few have been modified for the experimental version.
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Re: Which version is the wiki supposed to be about

Postby Koub » Sat May 27, 2017 6:30 am

There are infinitely more people playing the game and lurking in the forum than people who contribute to the wiki. And the game changes a LOT with each major update, even within a major update there are some important changes from time to time. As a consequence, the wiki is almost always outdated. The few people who work on it can't keep up, but I'm sure things will get better when development is finished (and it will be when it will be ). 8-)
Or if more contributors find in themselves the will to help,; it's the most efficient way to get an up-to-date wiki.
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Re: Which version is the wiki supposed to be about

Postby Bilka » Sat May 27, 2017 9:28 am

The wiki is currently being updated to the experimental version. All recipes and technology costs have already been updated. This means that only the text on the pages still needs to be updated. Further info about this topic can be found on the Editor noticeboard which is linked in the announcement topic of this subforum and on the sidebar of the wiki itself.
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Re: Which version is the wiki supposed to be about

Postby Xerus » Sun Jul 23, 2017 12:03 pm

There is a ton of outdated information on the wiki, especially in the prototypes section. If I am not misinterpreting the API, then prototypes like https://wiki.factorio.com/Prototype/EntityWithHealth don't even exist anymore.
I would suggest to redirect to the API documentation because keeping all that information updated in the wiki is impossible and unnecessary when it has its own place. I have partly already done that for this page: https://wiki.factorio.com/Prototype/technology-modifier
It confused me that there were many things not or wrongly mentioned and it took quite some time to find the API page which you can actually depend on. A simple redirect towards the corresponding API Page would make much more sense, especially since pages like these are mainly for mod developers.
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Re: Which version is the wiki supposed to be about

Postby Bilka » Sun Jul 23, 2017 12:58 pm

Xerus wrote:There is a ton of outdated information on the wiki, especially in the prototypes section. If I am not misinterpreting the API, then prototypes like https://wiki.factorio.com/Prototype/EntityWithHealth don't even exist anymore.
I would suggest to redirect to the API documentation because keeping all that information updated in the wiki is impossible and unnecessary when it has its own place. I have partly already done that for this page: https://wiki.factorio.com/Prototype/technology-modifier
It confused me that there were many things not or wrongly mentioned and it took quite some time to find the API page which you can actually depend on. A simple redirect towards the corresponding API Page would make much more sense, especially since pages like these are mainly for mod developers.


You are misinterpreting the api. First of all: The lua-api website does not document prototypes. This is why the section on prototypes on the wiki still exists. The types section is partially about things that are also documented on the lua-api website types section, but deleting those duplicate pages would not make much sense imo, since the amount of info on them is relatively small and should not change. If you do find pages within those sections that are not small and all their information can be found on the lua-api website, please mark those pages with the deletion template and give the lua-api page that has the information in the deletion reason. I can then delete the page and change all links that used to go to it to go to the lua api documentation.

Now to the prototypes tree structure: The most up to date prototype inheritance structure can be found here. It was generated by Rseding about 3 weeks ago and is based on version 0.15. I updated the tree structure on https://wiki.factorio.com/Prototype_definitions about a week ago to reflect the updated data. The structrue on Data.raw is also up to date, though it is automatically generated (the type hierachy on the repo is based on the tree images and was updated by me, about a week ago.)

PS: Yes, that section of the wiki is outdated. Most of it hasn't been edited since 2014, so I didn't really count it in the post.
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