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0.17 ruin my favor design

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This is a system that can make all the things by assembling machine
when you set the type of the item ,
it can provide the correct fluid ,
when jobs done , pump it back
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They removed the abillity to mix fluids in the same pipe system intentionally because people kept on complaining of mixing fluids accidentially.

And while initially I didn't like my hands being tied behind my back by the game telling me what I can do and what I can't I have to admit I am glad they made this change for better quality of life because it saved my ass already more than once ever since I started playing again with 0.17.

So I don't think that they will change anything about that anymore... and if at all the only thing they could do is make the inabillity to mix fluids an option, that is if they haven't removed some code to deal with mixed up fluids already.

I suggest you start to get over it and if you can't then revert back to 0.16.

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MeduSalem wrote:
Fri Apr 26, 2019 8:16 am
They removed the abillity to mix fluids in the same pipe system intentionally because people kept on complaining of mixing fluids accidentially.

And while initially I didn't like my hands being tied behind my back by the game telling me what I can do and what I can't I have to admit I am glad they made this change for better quality of life because it saved my ass already more than once ever since I started playing again with 0.17.

So I don't think that they will change anything about that anymore... and if at all the only thing they could do is make the inabillity to mix fluids an option, that is if they haven't removed some code to deal with mixed up fluids already.

I suggest you start to get over it and if you can't then revert back to 0.16.
i didn't mix the fluids ,it is more likely the fluids go through the same pipe by queue
now they told me that the different fluids can't get through(in front) the pump even it is controled?

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sosofly wrote:
Fri Apr 26, 2019 9:15 am
i didn't mix the fluids ,it is more likely the fluids go through the same pipe by queue
now they told me that the different fluids can't get through(in front) the pump even it is controled?
Short answer... yes.

The game now checks the entire pipe set for expected fluids... and if you try to connect pipes where the expected fluids mismatch then it can't connect and even if it is only hypothetically possible for them to mismatch.

Doesn't matter if there is a pump in between that is controlled by circuit network or not. The game doesn't know that the pump is controlled by a cirucit network intended to prevent the fluids from colliding. For the game it looks like you want to connect pipes possibly containing different fluids and hence disallows it.

Long story short... you can't reuse the same pipe for different fluids anymore no matter what you do.

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Personally, I love this mechanic. It has saved me lots of troubleshooting since being implemented.

The only time I found it a bit annoying was when I building oil refining arrays early on. I would place my layout, with the intention of doing Advanced Oil Processing in the future, but having to start with Basic Oil Processing. When it came time to change everything over, rather than just changing the recipe I had to remove all the refineries to clear the crude oil tag from what would be the water in advanced version. Bit of a nuisance, but well worth the benefit of not contaminating/locking up systems with the wrong fluids.

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Workaround: Set all the refineries' recipes to empty and then set them to the recipe you want.

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Yeah, just my layout doesn't make it easy to get to the refineries near the middle. Easier to just use a filtered deconstruction planner then place the new ones with bots.

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