[TOGoS] [0.17.6] Cliff Frequency Below 100% Little to No Effect

[onelastword]

Something I've noticed with the map generator in 0.17.6 is the weighting of "Cliff Frequency" below 100% has no noticeable effect on the map generated.

Here are a two images of a map with the cliff frequency turned from 100% to 17%



To make sure my eyes were not deceiving me I put the two screenshots through diff checker:



The bright pink areas are the visual diff from the above image. The only changes are the slider position.

I know frequency is the "number of cliffs" but I count >20 different sets of cliffs so if this is a frequency change from 100%/17% even with some other weights there should be some sort of notable difference in these values and the result.

[invisus]

Something I've noticed with the map generator in 0.17.6 is the weighting of "Cliff Frequency" below 100% has no noticeable effect on the map generated.

Is this just an issue with the map preview, or does the generated map have cliffs present as well?

[TOGoS]

Something I've noticed with the map generator in 0.17.6 is the weighting of "Cliff Frequency" below 100% has no noticeable effect on the map generated.

Is this just an issue with the map preview, or does the generated map have cliffs present as well?

This has been brought up to me on multiple occasions. The trouble is that cliffs are placed at certain elevations and increasing cliff frequency just reduces the difference between those rows. The starting area tends to not have high elevations (due to the way the starting area lake is generated), so you only get one row of cliffs unless you turn cliff frequency *way up*. We could reduce the default delta elevation per frequency multiplier, but then you get kind of ridiculous cliffs in some places farther from the starting area.

[BlueTemplar]

Oh, so there will still be a (noticeable?) difference outside of the starting area ?

[Twinsen]

Oh, so there will still be a (noticeable?) difference outside of the starting area ?

Yes, there should.

[Dominik]

If I want to have cliffs, but less of them around the start, is there a way to do that?

[TOGoS]

If I want to have cliffs, but less of them around the start, is there a way to do that?

Not from the GUI, but we could just change the 'cliffiness' function to give lower values near starting points. multiply by distance / 1000 or somesuch.

(And if we really wanted, that could then be made into an option that's selectable from the GUI by setting its intended_property_name = "cliffiness")