Friday Facts #229 - Taiwan report & Lamp staggering

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Re: Friday Facts #229 - Taiwan report & Lamp staggering

Post by Mylon » Fri Feb 09, 2018 5:19 pm

Hooray lamps! It's the little things like this that makes a game great. <3

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Post by Gergely » Fri Feb 09, 2018 5:24 pm

When can we expect the next update? They are quite infrequent for an experimental branch.

(Can't wait for "laser" turrets!)
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Post by Tekky » Fri Feb 09, 2018 5:28 pm

Gergely wrote:When can we expect the next update?
The answer to your question is in the FFF:
Klonan wrote:You can look forward this minor change with 0.16.23, which will be released on Monday.

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Post by Gergely » Fri Feb 09, 2018 5:36 pm

Tekky wrote:The answer to your question is in the FFF:
I admit not reading through before asking. FFF threads are usually a good place for quick questions as long as they are not filled to the third or fourth page. (Which seems to happen faster recently.)

Anyway...
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Re: Friday Facts #229 - Taiwan report & Lamp staggering

Post by Tekky » Fri Feb 09, 2018 5:38 pm

I'm sorry to hear that visiting the game show did not directly boost sales of Factorio. However, in the long run, I'm sure that it still was worth the effort of going there.

I'm pleased to hear that the issue of light staggering has been addressed. The main thing I am now waiting for is fixing belt compression. After that, as far as I'm concerned, 0.16 can be declared stable. ;-)

EDIT: I believe the issue of not being able to make walls connect to cliffs should also be fixed before 0.16 is declared stable.
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Re: Friday Facts #229 - Taiwan report & Lamp staggering

Post by HammerPiano » Fri Feb 09, 2018 5:48 pm

Great FFF as always!
One question,
What will happen to the existing lamps in saves when updating to 0.16.23?

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Post by Zyrconia » Fri Feb 09, 2018 5:49 pm

Yeah, the lamps are cool and all, but I haven't touched 0.16 or Factorio even since the belt compression issues.

I need to know what the future brings! :)

Talk about belts vs. bots all you want, but ruining belt compression is IMHO a masive nerf to belts.

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Re: Friday Facts #229 - Taiwan report & Lamp staggering

Post by tarou00 » Fri Feb 09, 2018 6:07 pm

Does a mean for some given lamps, the order they are turned on will be the same for every night ?

If there is a time assigned to each lamp to know when it should be turned on, this time could be randomised at each cycle.

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Re: Friday Facts #229 - Taiwan report & Lamp staggering

Post by Xuhybrid » Fri Feb 09, 2018 6:20 pm

I hate the lamp staggering. Leave it gone.

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Post by wlfbck » Fri Feb 09, 2018 7:25 pm

Mylon wrote:Hooray lamps! It's the little things like this that makes a game great. <3
Agreed. I'm playing a bit of Railway Empire right now, and the train system in Factorio is better then in that one... In a game about trains...

(Not that Railway Empire is bad per se, but i wish they put a bit more work into stuff like signals and train-pathfinding)

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Post by Xterminator » Fri Feb 09, 2018 7:29 pm

Really enjoyable Friday Facts to read! I'm glad the game show went well overall and you all got to have a couple days to explore the city and places you wanted to go. That's cool Jitka got to stay for the start of a nice vacation. I looked at that first game you guys mentioned you played, I may have to pick it up for myself as it does indeed look quite fun! :D

The lamp staggering and turning on earlier is awesome! It definitely was too dark before they turned on, so I'm glad that will be fixed. Now the only thing left is belt compression. :P

Hopefully you guys manage to go to PAX East as well.
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Re: Friday Facts #229 - Taiwan report & Lamp staggering

Post by purdueme91 » Fri Feb 09, 2018 7:34 pm

I second the comment that belt compression has to be fixed. The miniloader mod fixes it by loading and unloading a chest so maybe add an entity specifically for the feature.

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Post by PacifyerGrey » Fri Feb 09, 2018 8:25 pm

This is one of those relaxed FFFs which will not get a ton of discussion :)
I hope you guys enjoyed your trip and it actually made some sense in a form of potential profit.
purdueme91 wrote:I second the comment that belt compression has to be fixed. The miniloader mod fixes it by loading and unloading a chest so maybe add an entity specifically for the feature.
Klonan himself made such a mod right when the problem arised
https://mods.factorio.com/mod/belt_buffer
However I really hope this gets a proper fix soon

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Re: Friday Facts #229 - Taiwan report & Lamp staggering

Post by Proxy » Fri Feb 09, 2018 8:38 pm

a thing that would be awesome is being able to dim lamps, either via a circuit signal or just by waiting... so all lamps would turn on on the same time, but would be very dim at first and slowly incrrease in strenght as it gets darker.
Let's just wait til the Age of Iron Stars

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Post by MeduSalem » Fri Feb 09, 2018 9:13 pm

Tekky wrote:I'm sorry to hear that visiting the game show did not directly boost sales of Factorio. However, in the long run, I'm sure that it still was worth the effort of going there.
Somehow I am not surprised about that.

The Asian market is tough shit for Western game developers. If a game isn't a grind-based microtransaction-filled MMO/RPG/MOBA/RTS people usually don't give much of a fuck over there.

Have seen even various bigger companies having trouble with that in the past.

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Re: Friday Facts #229 - Taiwan report & Lamp staggering

Post by bobingabout » Fri Feb 09, 2018 9:20 pm

Great work.

but you know what else would be great? the abillity to set what level the night vision activates on modded night vission :P
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Post by Gergely » Fri Feb 09, 2018 9:23 pm

bobingabout wrote:Great work.

but you know what else would be great? the abillity to set what level the night vision activates on modded night vission :P
I think it would be better in the game settings, because it is totally player preference. Even in multiplayer, players should not be locked under the same set of options if this gets implemented.

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Post by aober93 » Fri Feb 09, 2018 9:36 pm

The picture sais Wube UK.. :?

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Re: Friday Facts #229 - Taiwan report & Lamp staggering

Post by KoblerMan » Fri Feb 09, 2018 10:17 pm

Mylon wrote:Hooray lamps! It's the little things like this that makes a game great. <3
Xuhybrid wrote:I hate the lamp staggering. Leave it gone.
Well, personally I like the lamp staggering, but maybe since not everyone does it should be a game option?
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