Friday Facts #159 - Research revolution

[kovarex]

https://www.factorio.com/blog/post/fff-159

[Loewchen]

Soon

What a tease...

[saturn7]

Nice, but the alien artifact requirement is gone? Will they have any new uses?

[kovarex]

Nice, but the alien artifact requirement is gone? Will they have any new uses?

We might use them in some high tier items as we do in modules level 3, but not in the research. The idea behind it is, that you can scale and automate the production quite well, but not the alien science pack gain.

[Masterfox]

What is it with the topic of this post?

[kovarex]

What is it with the topic of this post?

What do you mean?

[Masterfox]

What is it with the topic of this post?

What do you mean?

Fixed itself, it showed as FF #158 for me just a moment ago.

[mngrif]

Yes please I love these proposed changes! Every single one of them!

Also it gives me reason to rip up the science factory and make it properly...

[Mooncat]

We will combine a circuit board, an engine and a 3x3 machine into a jar to make blue liquid and give it to scientists for further study. Sounds interesting.

[chris13524]

Good thing I didn't build my science setup yet...

[chris13524]

Question: Will there be a bottom drain for the fluid tank cars? Or will the liquid be pumped out of the top?

[teemu]

You guys are the best. I like the new researches and the liquid wagon is awesome.

I think you could probably keep things 100% fair for the starting area in PvP mode by doing something like:

• make the starting area bigger, and splice it into n sectors
• generate 1 sector
• use a wrap-around method to seamlessly generate stuff on the one side of the sector to the other (so that a lake doesn't get cut off)
• copy, rotate and paste the section into the other splices and fix up the seams

We will combine a circuit board, an engine and a 3x3 machine into a jar to make blue liquid and give it to scientists for further study. Sounds interesting.

I'm convinced that the science packs actually power some strange interstellar modems that is used by computers to connect to the Internet and read Wikipedia.

[Marconos]

I really like the science overhaul except for one portion of it. Red / Green science is way too fast. I would love to see the research at these levels of the game doubled at least (or more). Currently it takes no time to blow through these items.

Another thought on this, as I'm sure not everyone agrees with me (though they are WRONG ) is to have the science factor be governed by a game setting. Allowing masochist to make the game take more science if they desire it.

Beyond that, lovin the changes and really looking forward to them!!!

[voyta]

What's the idea behind 30 copper wires in the recipe? "Enforcing" use of stack inserters? (It isn't just plain copper consumption, as that's less than a blue circuit).

[voyta]

Another thought on this, as I'm sure not everyone agrees with me (though they are WRONG ) is to have the science factor be governed by a game setting. Allowing masochist to make the game take more science if they desire it.

Marathon mod.

[Exasperation]

We will combine a circuit board, an engine and a 3x3 machine into a jar to make blue liquid and give it to scientists for further study. Sounds interesting.

All I can think of is https://www.youtube.com/user/Blendtec/videos.

[Marconos]

Another thought on this, as I'm sure not everyone agrees with me (though they are WRONG ) is to have the science factor be governed by a game setting. Allowing masochist to make the game take more science if they desire it.

Marathon mod.

I don't like the marathon mod. I don't want everything in the game changed, just the science. I know it's easy enough to have in a mod, but I'm one of those weird people that play with few to no mods and those few that I do/have used in the past don't change gameplay, colored trains mod for example.

[Afforess]

Another thought on this, as I'm sure not everyone agrees with me (though they are WRONG ) is to have the science factor be governed by a game setting. Allowing masochist to make the game take more science if they desire it.

Marathon mod.

I don't like the marathon mod. I don't want everything in the game changed, just the science. I know it's easy enough to have in a mod, but I'm one of those weird people that play with few to no mods and those few that I do/have used in the past don't change gameplay, colored trains mod for example.

As the current maintainer of the Marathon mod, I would love for the cost-scaling to be native to Factorio and the mod to be obsolete. It's very tedious to maintain.

[madpav3l]

Another thought on this, as I'm sure not everyone agrees with me (though they are WRONG ) is to have the science factor be governed by a game setting. Allowing masochist to make the game take more science if they desire it.

Marathon mod.

I don't like the marathon mod. I don't want everything in the game changed, just the science. I know it's easy enough to have in a mod, but I'm one of those weird people that play with few to no mods and those few that I do/have used in the past don't change gameplay, colored trains mod for example.

Then there is this mod ScienceCostTweaker Mod https://mods.factorio.com/mods/UberWaff ... ostTweaker
You can tweak it however you like in the configs.

[Chocolatetthunder]

dang you for sure have to stop by saturday if pvp excites you


https://www.reddit.com/r/factorio/comme ... pvp_event/