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mmmPI wrote:
Thu Aug 25, 2022 11:34 am
I feel like similar in concept to how evil often doesn’t see itself as evil, it seems like racists/fascists don’t see themselves as racists/fascists….
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mmmPI wrote:
Thu Aug 25, 2022 8:33 am
Djmixxx wrote:
Thu Aug 25, 2022 5:37 am
enterisys wrote:
Wed Aug 24, 2022 10:15 pm
Yes yes, if ruSSia did not strike first Ukrainians tanks would be already in Donetsk and Crimea.
Petro Poroshenko said the Minsk agreements “meant nothing” and claimed credit for giving Kiev enough time to militarize
Petro Poroshenko has admitted that the 2015 ceasefire in Donbass, which he negotiated with Russia, France and Germany as president of Ukraine, was merely a distraction intended to buy time for Kiev to rebuild its military.
Now I am sure that you are from Russia. And you are not allowed on non-Russian news sites.
Unssourced quote about something that happened still after the Russian attack of 2014 ? what's your point here ? to remind us that Russia started this in 2014 and you can't read properly a text and you are saying ridiculous statement about how internet works ?

"You are not allowed on non-Russian news site because you are from Russia " is one of the most ridiculous thing you said so far and you had some strong precedent. Obviously nor enterysis nor me are from Russia, unlike you mister war-apology-paid-troll who already posted on this very thread that you supported the russian on the front.

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Thu Aug 25, 2022 5:51 am
It's amazing how you can generate so much empty text. And such a complete misunderstanding of how the laws work. Well, in general, that's why large corporations use you.

But the fact that you believe that what you wrote and it suits you, says that the law is written correctly.
You were attempting to insult Ukraine saying the oligarch found a way to SELL UKRAINE even faster in relation to the war. Except you linked a paper that explicitly contradict you words saying :

1) The idea come from Internationnal monetary fund and has nothing to do with the oligarch's willl.

2) the reform is older than the invasion launched in 2022 and not a consequence you must have realized that when reading the 2 line of your text saying it dates from MAY 2020.

2) They are not related to why Ukrainian soldier should according to you, not defend their land against brutal invader.

4) why not link a text that actually back your work instead of posting a text that just contradict you and pretend i have not understood english, while you are the one pretending not understanding english most of the time to avoid taking into account element that blatantly contradict your cheap propaganda ?
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Thu Aug 25, 2022 5:51 am
That's just you miss that the land can buy a corporation TOGETHER with a resident of Ukraine. And in terms of corruption, Ukraine is somewhere at the bottom of the list along with Russia.

And corporations have much more money than the inhabitants of Ukraine. And those who do not want to sell can always disappear in the forests of Ukraine.
You should read the text you linked yourself instead of making things up, and you should ask for one of your friend to help you with translation if you have any, because the text you linked yourself clearly is saying something different than you, even your 2nd version after you said it was the oligarch selling Ukraine, now you say it's the " evil corporation" that will buy it TOGETHER with a resident of Ukraine, which is ridiculous, not in the text you linked, and it makes no sense in relation to the context of why it would mean they are slave of those corporation or why they shouldn't fight the invader that tries to steal their land using tanks, violence and murder.

None of that bullshit interpretation of yours is shown in the text, and you already lied many times on this thread, this time not very smart of you to post again a text contradicting your own insulting word on Ukraine the anniversary day of the independance on a thread called "we support Ukraine".


STill not related to why you think it's better for Ukrainian people to let their neighbour burn their field and their cities instead of trying to defend against barbaric invasion. You asked why they fight ? and you link a text on the thread "we support Ukraine " that you misunderstood that still doesn't explain why they shouldn't which is in on the continuation of the things you did to flag yourself as a low-level parrot bot.
You support the idea, like a pro-Ukrainian bot, in an unrealistic victory over Russia. The dream is beautiful and not real. And there is nothing in it about saving the lives of civilians. Let everyone die, but fighting for the opportunity to rule you by Ukrainian oligarchs, not Russian.

My thoughts prioritize human life. And it is not affected in any way by which oligarch rules.
I think your are confusing my opinion with the truth.

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And I like the pro-Ukrainian guys, how they fight off the river of photos with Ukrainians with Nazi symbols, which almost the whole world puts on the Internet, all the time showing one or two photos from Russia.

Relax, Europe already doesn’t care what you ziguet there and Hitler hangs in every toilet. You have a war, how much you still have left, play whatever you want. It's a pity that Ukrainian civilians also suffer from these games.

By the way, how is joining the European Union? Already accepted?
I think your are confusing my opinion with the truth.

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mmmPI wrote:
Thu Aug 25, 2022 11:34 am
gGeorg wrote:
Thu Aug 25, 2022 10:08 am
Your ability to ignore facts is breathtaking. Your trainers from non-govermant organization should be proud.
Darja investigating tomb of nazist Azov:
https://odysee.com/@RussiaIntel:6/5e6:f
I am not ignoring her death, just pointing out that you qualify nazi some people you don't kno based on their flag, and use the term journalist for others, but the person who died was a fascist, why not call her this way ?
I have pointed out several terrorist actions, made by Ukraina forces, targeting civilians:
https://odysee.com/@SouthFront:4/kiev-t ... ivilians:7
In last week, Ukraina forces blowed up at least 3 victims:
Mikhialovka - IED in a car - murdered head of civil administration
Kherson - IED - attempt to murder head of department
DPR security service prevented a terror attack scheduled at day of referendum. The terrorist was trained and supplyed by Czech republic.
https://rumble.com/v1h76sb-orgny-dlr-zm ... sutku.html
But you have decided to ignore that. Therefore, I point it again, saying you ignore the fact. But you decided to ignore it again and start to spinning around that journalist is not a journalist until you decide it is.
Facts are here, Ukraine uses another terrorist tactics. Ukraine forces uses IED to intentionally blow up civilians and journalists.
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Thu Aug 25, 2022 11:34 am
Where she illustrated herself by her proximity with neo-nazis and racists far right extremist.
https://www.sudouest.fr/international/r ... 003697.php
I applaud you. Use an article behind paywall (i.e. not accessible ) in a French language (e.i. not understandable) as an argument. That is true masterpiece of highlevel-non-govermant-paid troll. :lol:
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Thu Aug 25, 2022 11:34 am
You don't understand nazi are hated so much because they behaved exactly like darja douguina ? russian world = lebansraum ?
You missed the history class ?
So investigating a tombs of nazis Azov batalion, turns Darja into nazis ?
You probably study Nietzsche too much. :"if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you."
I am starting to like you. You are a funny guy. :lol:

Anyway, Lebensraum is spelled differently. You missed the grammar class ? When you talk about removing certain race from certain territory, we need to mention Ukraine government officials in 2014 who proposed that in Donbas area, only Ukraine speakers are allowed to live. Russians speakers are needed to leave or die. Is it a proper application of Lebensraum ? Enlighte me please.

Regarding Putin or his co-workers, I am sorry, I am not allowed to speak about this topic. Legal issues.
I live in a democracy, so it is considered as crime in my country.
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Djmixxx wrote:
Thu Aug 25, 2022 4:27 pm
You support the idea, like a pro-Ukrainian bot, in an unrealistic victory over Russia. The dream is beautiful and not real. And there is nothing in it about saving the lives of civilians. Let everyone die, but fighting for the opportunity to rule you by Ukrainian oligarchs, not Russian.

My thoughts prioritize human life. And it is not affected in any way by which oligarch rules.
This is a lie easy prooven wrong when one click on your profile and look at your first post on this forum where you clearly attempt to justify and legitimize the war
And the following 700+ post of yours since the last 6 month where all of them are on this thread insulting Ukraine and supporting the war launched by putin.


No more word from on you the topic that oligarch are selling ukraine to other ukrainians ? because they found an idea that was actually the IMF's idea ?
Why not try to explain why you linked this random article ? with the whole context, how it justify according to you why Ukraine should let Russia burn its country ?

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gGeorg wrote:
Thu Aug 25, 2022 4:38 pm
mmmPI wrote:
Thu Aug 25, 2022 11:34 am
I am not ignoring her death, just pointing out that you qualify nazi some people you don't kno based on their flag, and use the term journalist for others, but the person who died was a fascist, why not call her this way ?
I have pointed out several terrorist actions, made by Ukraina forces, targeting civilians:

In last week, Ukraina forces blowed up at least 3 victims:
Mikhialovka - IED in a car - murdered head of civil administration
Kherson - IED - attempt to murder head of department
DPR security service prevented a terror attack scheduled at day of referendum. The terrorist was trained and supplyed by Czech republic.
/quote]
But you have decided to ignore that. Therefore, I point it again, saying you ignore the fact. But you decided to ignore it again and start to spinning around that journalist is not a journalist until you decide it is.
Facts are here, Ukraine uses another terrorist tactics. Ukraine forces uses IED to intentionally blow up civilians and journalists.
Facts are that Russia launched a war that is killing many people and Ukraine is fighting back ?
Your video mentionning the death of a few occupiers is in czech btw, you expect me to understand English Russian and Czech ? but it's forbidden to post something related to when someone was making friend in france with neo nazi written in french ? I'm not ignoring fact, you are mentionning 3 victim, the 24 of august ? which is durng the Ukrainain independance day, when Russia launched rockets on cities killing 25 innocent civilian.
As the war entered its seventh month, Russia said its forces had struck a railway station in eastern Ukraine the previous day, confirming an attack which Kyiv says also hit a residential area and killed 25 civilians as the nation marked its Independence Day.
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/uk ... 022-08-23/


Your selective curating of article made to try and blame Ukraine for getting rid of Russian occupying forces is pathetic. You keep pushing the same story but that doesn't change the facts that dugina's death was claimed by Russian, and that she was a fascist that made war propaganda and was demanding the war to happen.



gGeorg wrote:
Thu Aug 25, 2022 4:38 pm
mmmPI wrote:
Thu Aug 25, 2022 11:34 am
Where she illustrated herself by her proximity with neo-nazis and racists far right extremist.
https://www.sudouest.fr/international/r ... 003697.php
I applaud you. Use an article behind paywall (i.e. not accessible ) in a French language (e.i. not understandable) as an argument. That is true masterpiece of highlevel-non-govermant-paid troll. :lol:
Are you not able to use google translate like other human ?
Why would you post a video in czech langage and expect everyone to understand ?

https://www-ouest--france-fr.translate. ... r_pto=wapp

This explains it to you better ?


https://www.cbsnews.com/news/daria-dugi ... der-dugin/

You need a quote precisely explained to you ? :
"Without Ukraine, Russia cannot become once more the empire," Dugin said in a video posted to Telegram in March. "With Ukraine inside of Russia zone of control, it will become empire once more."
"We demand from him to be much more authoritarian than he is," Dugin told Stahl. "So he a little bit disappoints us because it [takes] too long."



You see compared to random civilians that gets killed daily in Ukraine, some people like Dugina and her father share a portion of the responsabilities in the war their country unleashed afer their propaganda, and their books detailing how the need to kill Ukraine.

Still can't make the difference ? when someone's job is to talk on the media to promote a war on behalf of the state that launches it and only covers stories related to this war using information given to her by the state propaganda organism ? and journalism ?
gGeorg wrote:
Thu Aug 25, 2022 4:38 pm
mmmPI wrote:
Thu Aug 25, 2022 11:34 am
You don't understand nazi are hated so much because they behaved exactly like darja douguina ? russian world = lebansraum ?
You missed the history class ?
So investigating a tombs of nazis Azov batalion, turns Darja into nazis ?
You probably study Nietzsche too much. :"if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you."
I am starting to like you. You are a funny guy. :lol:
thank you for pointing out one example of a way to be a relay for state propaganda, being embedded in a military trip to show the images prepared by the military to try and blame the other side for the war, trying to shift the context by over representing a minority of extremist fighter to justify a full scale invasion and indicriminate bombing of cities.

gGeorg wrote:
Thu Aug 25, 2022 4:38 pm
Anyway, Lebensraum is spelled differently. You missed the grammar class ? When you talk about removing certain race from certain territory, we need to mention Ukraine government officials in 2014 who proposed that in Donbas area, only Ukraine speakers are allowed to live. Russians speakers are needed to leave or die. Is it a proper application of Lebensraum ? Enlighte me please.

Regarding Putin or his co-workers, I am sorry, I am not allowed to speak about this topic. Legal issues.
I live in a democracy, so it is considered as crime in my country.

I am not talking about removing race from certain territory, because i don't think race is diferent depending on the langage you speak, i don't even think race is a concept that apply to human, what you are doing is a gross exageration considering the actual president of Ukraine Zelensky was speaking Russian for his election speech and was elected nonetheless.


Lebensraum is the idea that the german nazi neded a much bigger country than their own and they were going to take it from their neighbour. Similar to what putin is attempting to sell to russian sheep, that he need to rule over ukraine and is attempting to do so by sending cannon fodder. His seizure of Crimea with indiference from the west is strikingly similar to the Sudete region from czech republik that was anexed from hitler facing indiference of the western nations, european leaders did not do the mistake twice however.

Lebensraum similarities are particularly visible when someone like dugina explain Russia need Ukraine to be an empire again no ?

Why do you keep ignoring those facts ? the first time you didn't bother translating but this time ?
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gGeorg wrote:
Thu Aug 25, 2022 4:38 pm

Regarding Putin or his co-workers, I am sorry, I am not allowed to speak about this topic. Legal issues.
I live in a democracy, so it is considered as crime in my country.
Russia is not a democracy. I'm sorry you can't criticize the governement, you could have in a democracy.

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FuryoftheStars wrote:
Thu Aug 25, 2022 4:26 pm
mmmPI wrote:
Thu Aug 25, 2022 11:34 am
I feel like similar in concept to how evil often doesn’t see itself as evil, it seems like racists/fascists don’t see themselves as racists/fascists….
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rashism
Also in 1997, Dugin hailed what he saw as the arrival of a "genuine, true, radically revolutionary and consistent, fascist fascism" in Russia, in an article titled "Fascism – Borderless and Red"; previously in 1992, he had in another article defended "fascism" as not having anything to do with "the racist and chauvinist aspects of National Socialism", stating in contrast that "Russian fascism is a combination of natural national conservatism with a passionate desire for true changes."[55] Another of Dugin's books, The Fourth Political Theory, published in 2009, has been cited as an inspiration for Russian policy in events such as the war in Donbas,[56] and for the contemporary European far-right in general.[57]

Some facist are proudly calling themselves facist, and their troll follower seem unaware and deny the claim, probably due to sheer ignorance.

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Djmixxx wrote:
Thu Aug 25, 2022 4:38 pm
And I like the pro-Ukrainian guys, how they fight off the river of photos with Ukrainians with Nazi symbols, which almost the whole world puts on the Internet, all the time showing one or two photos from Russia.

Relax, Europe already doesn’t care what you ziguet there and Hitler hangs in every toilet. You have a war, how much you still have left, play whatever you want. It's a pity that Ukrainian civilians also suffer from these games.

By the way, how is joining the European Union? Already accepted?
Haha, after 6 months and already burning bases in Crimea I assure you the last one who is suffering is Ukrainian civilians.

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gGeorg wrote:
Wed Aug 24, 2022 7:03 pm
Unable to stop allied forces, Kiev regime terrorises civilians in territories they lost.
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Ukraina state found a newest deep shit level. Congratulation to all supporters of state level terrorism.
lol they lost territories, to Russia, who has been waging illegal war in the country Ukraine for 6 months

you keep acting like Ukraine came out of nowhere and started all of this. it did not.

you seem to think Ukraine should gift the Donetsk and Luhansk regions to Russia and just let it go? move on? do you think that Russia would just stop their advancement and simply be nice?

you call Ukraine's actions murder. why not Russia the same? you mince words with one and not the other.

this is why no one likes how you investigate the issue or interact with others. you think that just because Wube support Ukraine, they support everything Ukraine does. tell me, what country you live in? you support everything they do, then?

also, is unfortunate reality. war is a tragedy. call out 3 or 4 individual deaths, while ignoring the cause. Russia.

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gGeorg wrote:
Thu Aug 25, 2022 4:38 pm
Darja investigating tomb of nazist Azov:
https://odysee.com/@RussiaIntel:6/5e6:f

https://gnet-research.org/2021/02/17/od ... far-right/


i'd never heard of Odysee.com so I had to look up who was behind it. Jeremy Kauffman. hilarious alt-right Nazi site you're using there, pal

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Djmixxx wrote:
Thu Aug 25, 2022 4:27 pm
You support the idea, like a pro-Ukrainian bot, in an unrealistic victory over Russia. The dream is beautiful and not real. And there is nothing in it about saving the lives of civilians. Let everyone die, but fighting for the opportunity to rule you by Ukrainian oligarchs, not Russian.

My thoughts prioritize human life. And it is not affected in any way by which oligarch rules.
fighting for your own existence is how sovereignty goes. look into the history of Japanification and how terrible things were for Korea. it's not great to go invading other nations to ensure your culture is dominant there.

so, if the USA were doing the same, would your same logic not hold? let's thought experiment. USA invades Russia, and Russia fights back. is this bad? in your Ukraine worldview projected onto Russia, it has to be. Russians would only fight back not to preserve their citizens' lives but to ensure they ruled over their citizens instead of USA.


or maybe it is more nuanced than that. maybe Russia would be allowed to fight back as an act of self-preservation. it is human nature.

this is why you are perceived to be clearly on the side of the aggressor here. you blame victim, tell them to step down. you are not living normal human nature. you are telling them to ignore their instinct. lay down their weapons. and bend over and take it up the fuckin ass from Putin.

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also worth periodically reminding the thread that Djmixxx is on a video game forum for a game they don't even play, having spent 100% of their time on this forum in a single thread.

we can assume it's on their "Speed dial" browser tab space where it's one of their regular web destinations in between fapping to Putin and blaming the victims in this unjust war.

looking forward to seeing any shred of evidence that Djmixxx actually owns the game and plays it at all.

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Any war crimes enjoyers?
https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukrai ... ce=Twitter
While Russia claimed that it had targeted the train because it was carrying Ukrainian troops and equipment on Wednesday, an Associated Press reporter on the ground said there was no visible indication that Ukrainian troops were among the dead, who included children.

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German Chancellor Olaf Scholz has urged radical reforms of the European Union to prepare it for new members. "The countries of the Western Balkans, Ukraine, the Republic of Moldova and, in the future, Georgia should become part of the EU. This enlargement is in the interests of the European Union," he said in a speech at the Charles University in Prague on Monday, August 29.

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wonder if Djmixxx was one of the 80k Russian soldiers now lost in this 3-day special military exercise

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ptx0 wrote:
Fri Aug 26, 2022 4:51 pm
also worth periodically reminding the thread that Djmixxx is on a video game forum for a game they don't even play, having spent 100% of their time on this forum in a single thread.

we can assume it's on their "Speed dial" browser tab space where it's one of their regular web destinations in between fapping to Putin and blaming the victims in this unjust war.

looking forward to seeing any shred of evidence that Djmixxx actually owns the game and plays it at all.
There was already a question and I answered it by posting a screenshot with the earliest version of the save that I had and how many hours were played there.

But it's easier to create a stink here than to press the search button.
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I think your are confusing my opinion with the truth.

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ptx0 wrote:
Fri Aug 26, 2022 4:48 pm
USA invades Russia, and Russia fights back. is this bad?
It would be great. The US would give me the ability to lay off workers any time my heel itchs. Dismiss sick or pregnant women. Can not wait.

Once again, for the stupid (if you already understood, this does not apply to you), I absolutely do not care who pays the tax. At work, I often contact the authorities, there are no normal people there. Only a thirst for money or a desire to rule.
I think your are confusing my opinion with the truth.

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Nothing wakes up bots as ruSSian goodwill.

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ptx0 wrote:
Fri Aug 26, 2022 4:41 pm

you seem to think Ukraine should gift the Donetsk and Luhansk regions to Russia and just let it go? move on? do you think that Russia would just stop their advancement and simply be nice?
What a wonderful selective memory.

The fact that Ukraine was presented with these territories: not remember
Soviet Ukraine was formed on December 25, 1917 and received the division of the territory into provinces and counties, inherited from the Russian Empire.
Putin, of course, joked funny when he said that Ukraine would know what decommunization is. It's a pity that this led to war.

The fact that Ukraine can not presented these territories: remember


The fact that Luhansk and Donetsk region wanted to be part of Ukraine with expanded autonomy for 8 years, while Kyiv politicians sent their fighter jets to civilians in these regions: I don’t remember.

So competently to screw up the opportunity to peacefully resolve this issue, as the Ukrainian Nazis did, you need to be very able.

In my post, only stubborn ukrobots will see the support of Russia. I wrote about the failures of Ukrainian politicians.

And now there is less difference between democracy and Russian democracy.

Media censorship, arrests of those who disagree with the policy of the ruling party, disregard for the opposition. And this is a European country. The only difference is that the politicians of my country are hiding behind the defense of democracy?
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