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• Blocked underground pipe connections (see e.g. 73840) are always highlighted.

• Fixed crash when using the close button while the client is saving the map for desync report. (74508)
• Fixed a crash related to settings copy/paste of some modded assemblers. (74025)
• Correctly highlighting blocked connections of modded underground pipes. (74116)
• Fixed a case of disappearing fluid in a special fluid furnace configuration. (74373)
• Fixed programmable speaker caused crash when using --disable-audio command line option. (74551)
• Fixed that an underground pipe ghost did not split fluid systems. (74252)
• Fixed that an underground pipe ghost did not split blocked connection. (74269)
• Fixed that fluids in assembling machines and furnaces would get voided any time mods changed. (74284)
• Prevented construction of underground pipe that could crash the game due to blocked pipe connection. (74116)

• Added LuaEntityPrototype::terrain_friction_modifier read.

• I got lost going forwards creating new game because I missed the giant green "play" button - it didn't look like a button/the other buttons. (Edit: I think it's just that it's really long so looks like a 'bar' - the "Save" button is the same colour but had no problem)
• The reduced-tree research screen baffled me, I thought all I could research now at the start was "automation" then wanted splitters but could only research "electronics" then realised what I wanted logistics and couldn't find it anywhere. Trimming stuff downwards is great and the arrows made that intuitive, but the tree is the main volume of the window and trimming upwards without any visual indicator made me think the default displayed node was the only one. I eventually realised that apparently I can only select what I want from the "list of techs" and that despite the trees overlapping you can never seem to show the roots together. This took me a minute or two on the third time opening the screen, and I knew what I was looking for. I've used tech trees since Civ2, and I miss being able to see the whole tree, or at least browse back to the root. Even clicking up/down on the tree for a while made it appear random which techs were shown above. Assuming this is by design and not a this-version bug.
• I couldn't work out how to update mods. I swear it used to have a "you must restart to apply changes" popup. I went to update, clicked "update" and all the entries disappeared from the list, but all the mods in the mod list still said out of date. It took me giving up, starting a game, going out then in again before I realised that I needed to click the giant green button _after_ clicking
• Is there any reason the "Toggle alt-mode" couldn't just be labelled "show building contents" or something; I knew Alt by muscle memory and that new highly visible button confused me.....

Xgkkp wrote: ↑

Fri Aug 16, 2019 7:30 pm

This is the first 0.17 I've played. I know the GUI has gone through a lot of changes; consider this a single data-point personal feedback based on what I find intuitive; I'm sure you've heard all this before but I couldn't see an obvious thread about the GUI/usability.

Probably all this is just because I knew what it was before!

• I got lost going forwards creating new game because I missed the giant green "play" button - it didn't look like a button/the other buttons. (Edit: I think it's just that it's really long so looks like a 'bar' - the "Save" button is the same colour but had no problem)
• The reduced-tree research screen baffled me, I thought all I could research now at the start was "automation" then wanted splitters but could only research "electronics" then realised what I wanted logistics and couldn't find it anywhere. Trimming stuff downwards is great and the arrows made that intuitive, but the tree is the main volume of the window and trimming upwards without any visual indicator made me think the default displayed node was the only one. I eventually realised that apparently I can only select what I want from the "list of techs" and that despite the trees overlapping you can never seem to show the roots together. This took me a minute or two on the third time opening the screen, and I knew what I was looking for. I've used tech trees since Civ2, and I miss being able to see the whole tree, or at least browse back to the root. Even clicking up/down on the tree for a while made it appear random which techs were shown above. Assuming this is by design and not a this-version bug.
• I couldn't work out how to update mods. I swear it used to have a "you must restart to apply changes" popup. I went to update, clicked "update" and all the entries disappeared from the list, but all the mods in the mod list still said out of date. It took me giving up, starting a game, going out then in again before I realised that I needed to click the giant green button _after_ clicking
• Is there any reason the "Toggle alt-mode" couldn't just be labelled "show building contents" or something; I knew Alt by muscle memory and that new highly visible button confused me.....

RocketManChronicles wrote: ↑

Mon Aug 19, 2019 11:10 am

Xgkkp wrote: ↑

Fri Aug 16, 2019 7:30 pm

This is the first 0.17 I've played. I know the GUI has gone through a lot of changes; consider this a single data-point personal feedback based on what I find intuitive; I'm sure you've heard all this before but I couldn't see an obvious thread about the GUI/usability.

Probably all this is just because I knew what it was before!

• I got lost going forwards creating new game because I missed the giant green "play" button - it didn't look like a button/the other buttons. (Edit: I think it's just that it's really long so looks like a 'bar' - the "Save" button is the same colour but had no problem)
• The reduced-tree research screen baffled me, I thought all I could research now at the start was "automation" then wanted splitters but could only research "electronics" then realised what I wanted logistics and couldn't find it anywhere. Trimming stuff downwards is great and the arrows made that intuitive, but the tree is the main volume of the window and trimming upwards without any visual indicator made me think the default displayed node was the only one. I eventually realised that apparently I can only select what I want from the "list of techs" and that despite the trees overlapping you can never seem to show the roots together. This took me a minute or two on the third time opening the screen, and I knew what I was looking for. I've used tech trees since Civ2, and I miss being able to see the whole tree, or at least browse back to the root. Even clicking up/down on the tree for a while made it appear random which techs were shown above. Assuming this is by design and not a this-version bug.
• I couldn't work out how to update mods. I swear it used to have a "you must restart to apply changes" popup. I went to update, clicked "update" and all the entries disappeared from the list, but all the mods in the mod list still said out of date. It took me giving up, starting a game, going out then in again before I realised that I needed to click the giant green button _after_ clicking
• Is there any reason the "Toggle alt-mode" couldn't just be labelled "show building contents" or something; I knew Alt by muscle memory and that new highly visible button confused me.....

The 0.17 GUI takes a little to adjust to from earlier versions. But after a short while you will get the hang of it. After 6 months, it feels very intuitive to use and flows much better than older versions.

funky.bibimbap wrote: ↑

Wed Aug 21, 2019 2:12 pm

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(I thought people used parallel installations of factorio for different mod sets )
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funky.bibimbap wrote: ↑

Wed Aug 21, 2019 2:12 pm

I thought people used parallel installations of factorio for different mod sets

S:\Games\Factorio 0.17\bin\x64\  factorio.exe --mod-directory "S:\Games\Factorio 0.17\tea-mods"

bobingabout wrote: ↑

Sun Aug 25, 2019 10:35 am

funky.bibimbap wrote: ↑

Wed Aug 21, 2019 2:12 pm

I thought people used parallel installations of factorio for different mod sets :roll:

I have parallel installations of Factorio that are different versions.

Xgkkp wrote: ↑

Fri Aug 16, 2019 7:30 pm

• Is there any reason the "Toggle alt-mode" couldn't just be labelled "show building contents" or something;

bobingabout wrote: ↑

Sun Aug 25, 2019 10:35 am

funky.bibimbap wrote: ↑

Wed Aug 21, 2019 2:12 pm

I thought people used parallel installations of factorio for different mod sets

I have parallel installations of Factorio that are different versions.
for mods, just make another mod folder inside the game directory (I don't use the steam version, mods are installed in the game directory, not your user profile), then you can load the game with a command line, such as...

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S:\Games\Factorio 0.17\bin\x64\  factorio.exe --mod-directory "S:\Games\Factorio 0.17\tea-mods"

or, you know, make a new shortcut icon for it.