The generation of the resource in map.

[Airat9000]

Hi all! I want to modify my mod) and I want to know and please tell me how to reduce the number of spawn resources on the map.
as you can see on the map a lot of resource, I would like to reduce to 3-4 pieces and not 10 in one area)

Привет всем! хочу доработать свой мод) и хочу узнать и просьба подсказать как мне уменьшить количества спауна ресурсов на карте.
как видите на карте много ресурса, хотелось бы уменьшить до 3-4 штук а не 10 на одной местности)

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data:extend(
{
  {
    type = "autoplace-control",
    name = "gas-chlorine",
    richness = true,
    order = "a-c-c"
  },
  
  {
    type = "noise-layer",
    name = "gas-chlorine"
  },
  
  {
    type = "resource",
    name = "gas-chlorine",
    icon = "__gas-chlorine__/graphics/icons/fluid/gas-chlorine.png",
    flags = {"placeable-neutral"},
    category = "basic-fluid",
    order="a-c-c",
    infinite = false,
    minimum = 75000,
    normal = 75000,
    minable =
    {
      hardness = 1,
      mining_time = 5.1,
      results =
      {
        {
          type = "fluid",
          name = "gas-chlorine",
          amount_min = 3.5,
          amount_max = 3.5,
          probability = 0.50
        }
      }
    },
    collision_box = {{ -1.4, -1.4}, {1.4, 1.4}},
    selection_box = {{ -0.5, -0.5}, {0.5, 0.5}},
    autoplace =
    {
      control = "gas-chlorine",
      sharpness = 0.80,
      max_probability = 0.03,
      richness_multiplier = 150000000,
      richness_base = 150000000,
      size_control_multiplier = 0.1,
      peaks =
	  {
        {
          influence = 0.1
        },
        {
          influence = 0.075,
          starting_area_weight_optimal = 0.4,
          starting_area_weight_range = 0,
          starting_area_weight_max_range = 2,
        },
        {
          influence = 0.54,
          noise_layer = "gas-chlorine",
          noise_octaves_difference = -2.7,
          noise_persistence = 0.3
        }
      }
    },
    stage_counts = {0},
    stages =
    {
      sheet =
      {
        filename = "__gas-chlorine__/graphics/entity/gas-chlorine/gas-chlorine.png",
        priority = "extra-high",
        width = 75,
        height = 61,
        frame_count = 4,
        variation_count = 1
      }
    },
    map_color = {r=0.5, g=0.8, b=0.9},
    map_grid = false
  }
})

[Airat9000]

need help??

[matjojo]

need help??

Try copying the base game one's, or lowering the amounts in the peak values. It seems like those would determine that.

[Airat9000]

need help??

Try copying the base game one's, or lowering the amounts in the peak values. It seems like those would determine that.

Yes, I realized I would have more accurate information I would like to understand and how it works)

да я понял мне бы более точное информацию я хотел бы понять суть и как работает)

[aubergine18]

In the main resource prototype...

* `autoplace.sharpness` determines, for a specific patch, how spread out it is (0 = very spread out, 1 = all in one clump like ores)

* `autoplace.coverage` seems to have some effect on how frequent the patches will appear (although I'm not sure about this)

* various `richness` values determine how much resource each patch contains.

I don't really understand how the `peaks` settings work (I get the basics, but don't know what each specific setting relates to) or what the `stage_counts` setting is (something to do with `stages.sheet.variation_count`?)

[matjojo]

Maybe ask bob or angel, they both have mods that center around resources

[Airat9000]

boys!!! thanks in help
i am
example (my mods in more) 6 types

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      {
        {
          type = "fluid",
          name = "water-purified",
          amount_min = 1.5,
          amount_max = 1.5,
          probability = 1
        }
      }
    },
    collision_box = {{ -1.4, -1.4}, {1.4, 1.4}},
    selection_box = {{ -0.5, -0.5}, {0.5, 0.5}},
    autoplace =
    {
      control = "water-purified",
      sharpness = 0.30,
      max_probability = 0.03,
      richness_multiplier = 150000000,
      richness_base = 150000000,
      size_control_multiplier = 0.1,
      peaks =
	  {
        {
          influence = 0.1
        },
        {
          influence = 0.075,
          starting_area_weight_optimal = 0.4,
          starting_area_weight_range = 0,
          starting_area_weight_max_range = 2,
        },
        {
          influence = 0.24,
          noise_layer = "water-purified",
          noise_octaves_difference = -2.7,
          noise_persistence = 0.3
        }
      }
    },

I sat down and changed himself into general resources are fewer, but they are together for some reason
inf in 0.54 to 0.24 shar 0.80 to 0.30 an min max parametrs

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influence = 0.24,     sharpness = 0.30, 
        name = "water-purified",
          amount_min = 1.5,
          amount_max = 1.5,

[Doublespin]

I'm not sure if i'm correct but this is how i think some of the parameters work.

The minable properties shouldnt change the spawning.
min/max_amount: after a machine/player mines a resource you will get a number of resources between these number.
min_amount=1, max_amount=3 will give you after each mining process 1,2 or 3 ores (fluids will use point numbers?)
probability: is the probabiliry that the mining process is a success.
probability = 1/3; on average only every third mining-process will result in an item (How many items is defined by min/max_amount)

autoplace properties:
sharpness: Determines how the sharpness filter works: 1 means the filter will return only 1 or 0. 0 wouldnt change anything.
Lets start with a sin wave. This will be the input for the sharpness filter (sharpness=1)
then every value bigger than 0.5 will get transformed to 1 and every values smaller than 0.5 will transformed to 0
SO we would get a square wave:

graphs

Sin Wave

Sinplot.png (3.35 KiB) Viewed 2660 times

sharpness = 0.99 -> square wave

filter_99.png (2.36 KiB) Viewed 2660 times

sharpness = 0.50

filter_50.png (2.89 KiB) Viewed 2660 times

sharpness = 0.10

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I would exspect that resource patches would get wholes if the sharpness is too small
coverage: = 0.02, -- Cover on average 2% of surface area.

I found this in the wiki:
max_probability * sharpness_filter(sum of influences + size modifier from GUI) - random(0, random_probability_penalty)
sharpness_filter(sum of influences + size modifier from GUI) will give out numbers between 0 and 1
If sum of influences is high you will get more numbers around 1. ?And the "influence" is determined by the peaks?
max_probability:Number between 0 and 1. Probably this is the setting you want to change.
Lower values mean dirctly less resource patches. Even if the sharpness filter returns 1 there will be one more check if the ressource will be spawned.
random_probability_penalty: Number bigger than 0. This is an additional paramtere to reduce the spawn chance.
I imagine the impact like this:
high max_probability, random_probability_penalty=0 => Many resources equally distributed over the map
high max_probability, high random_probability_penalty => There will be some dense resource points on the map and some less dense
very high random_probability_penalty => no resource will spawn
Since the overall chance will decrease fast if random_probability_penalty is bigger than the double of max_probability you should avoid much bigger numbers.

sum of influences * (richness_multiplier + distance * richness_multiplier_distance_bonus) + richness_base
richness_base: determines tha base amount of a resource
richness_multiplier: this values is influenced by the "influence"
richness_multiplier_distance_bonus: this value is influenced by the "influence" and the distance to the start area
size_control_multiplier: probably the same as richness_multiplier but for the site

resource properties:
infinite: ?If infinite is true then the 3 following parameters are used? are they having an influence if infinite is false?
Even if infinite is true, the amount of the resource is calculated but not shown ingame
minimum: this is the minium amount of the resource. After this amount is reached through mining then there will be no further decrease
normal: Reference amount for minimum. This is how the game calculates the %.
normal = 1000, minium =100: The % shown ingame will be decreased to 10% and then will be constant
normal = 100000, minium =10000: The % shown ingame will be decreased to 10% and then will be constant but the % will decrease slower
normal and minimum are having no effect on the amount at which resource is spawned.
maximum: Im not sure. Maybe it caps the maximum aomunt at which the resource can spawn or it caps the % number

stage counts:

Copper-ore

152x304 pixel

copper-ore.png (76.32 KiB) Viewed 2660 times

the rows of the image represent the 8 different stages. stage_counts are the number at which the game changes the appearance of the ore tile
sheet: I think this is how the game reads out the image
frame_count = 4 number of "columns"
variation_count = 8 number of "rows"
height = 38,width = 38 the number of pixel for one copper tile
4x38=152
8x38=304