How much crashing is normal?

[dee-]

Hi there.

I want to get feedback about how many crashes per hour are considered "normal".

Mind you, this isn't meant as a flame - I fully accept it is a game in very early development and sometimes frequent crashes just are part of alpha, even beta - so no disrespect, I'm just curious.

[FishSandwich]

That depends on if you're playing vanilla Factorio or with mods,

On vanilla, my game rarely crashes, like ever, unless there's a game breaking bug in the release(0.11.13 is quite stable now, so no crashes on that version).

Mods can cause crashes due to unexpected script actions, but again, that's really rare as well.

Are you asking for technical help or reporting a bug? If a bug, you should probably post your crash logs.

[Tami]

I hade 1 crash yet since 0.11.13 and i have played arround 50 houres yet, so its quite rare.

[dee-]

I'm running 0.11.13 vanilla without mods (however I installed once the Resource Monitor and the Fat Controller, but I removed them again)

It's crashing every few minutes :/ Especially when it's autosaving.
So I disabled autosave and everything was fine for a much longer period, then it crashed again and all the meantime progress was lost

Sadly there's nothing in the log and no debug information available, it just "stopped responding" and gets closed by Windows.

[FishSandwich]

Sadly there's nothing in the log and no debug information available, it just "stopped responding" and gets closed by Windows.

You're talking about these logs?

[dee-]

Sadly there's nothing in the log and no debug information available, it just "stopped responding" and gets closed by Windows.

You're talking about these logs?

Yes

[FishSandwich]

Hmm, have you tried to uninstall and do a fresh reinstall? Can you post system specs? Since autosave is related maybe it's a disk space issue?

[dee-]

Hmm, have you tried to uninstall and do a fresh reinstall? Can you post system specs? Since autosave is related maybe it's a disk space issue?

System spec:
- AMD Phenom II X6
- 8 GiB DDR3 RAM
- OS partition + games partition on SSD Crucial M4 128 GB with more than 50% free on both
- no dirty stuff like symlinks etc. going on for Factorio

Does Factorio write to %TEMP% ? Because that's on a 512 MiB ramdisk... (IIRC it's been some time)

When I'm back home I can add more information, what do you need?

[FishSandwich]

Well it looks like your system is good enough to handle Factorio.

Does Factorio write to %TEMP% ? Because that's on a 512 MiB ramdisk... (IIRC it's been some time)

That's a question for the devs, but afaik Factorio makes its own temp folder in the application directory in same place it keeps the logs, mods etc.

I don't know what else to suggest. :/ Though I wonder if it could be related to this issue(since it's save related)? It was meant to be fixed in 0.11.12, but maybe it's causing a crash now instead of error message?

[dee-]

I'm willing to run a testbuild which creates tons of logs, popups, etc. I just hope they have placed log.info() calls all over the place

[kovarex]

Well, the singleplayer is supposed to be very stable currently.

In version 0.11.14 (just released), the stacktrace of the error is included in the log now, so the log and error report would be really helpful.

When this happens please make a thread in this section, but this thread is not really a bug report, but a question, so I'm moving it to not a bug.

[dee-]

Well, the singleplayer is supposed to be very stable currently.

In version 0.11.14 (just released), the stacktrace of the error is included in the log now, so the log and error report would be really helpful.

When this happens please make a thread in this section, but this thread is not really a bug report, but a question, so I'm moving it to not a bug.

Okay. "I want to report a bug of unknown origin but it keeps Factorio crashing for me"

Will retest with .14 and post a stackdump

[dee-]

Submitted as a bug still in 0.11.14 here.