[0.16.36] splitter after burner miner - no ore on one belt

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[0.16.36] splitter after burner miner - no ore on one belt

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if you place a splitter after a miner one belt will not be filled from the splitter if the splitter is orientaten to the right.
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if you make this with an electric miner the bug does not exist.
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Re: [0.16.36] splitter after burner miner - no ore on one belt

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NaB/duplicate - it's inserting onto the end part of the splitter.
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Re: [0.16.36] splitter after burner miner - no ore on one belt

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Why to regular miners not exhibit this?

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Isn't this a bug?
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Re: [0.16.36] splitter after burner miner - no ore on one belt

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Jap2.0 wrote:NaB/duplicate - it's inserting onto the end part of the splitter.
its a bug and not a dublicate - explain why is the ore placed on both sides of the belt if the splitter is orientated to the left???
i think that they need to move the ore exit point.
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Re: [0.16.36] splitter after burner miner - no ore on one belt

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Blacky007 wrote:explain why is the ore placed on both sides of the belt if the splitter is orientated to the left???
How could it not, if the drop off vector is offset so you drop after the split point turning the splitter around guaranties you drop before it now.

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Re: [0.16.36] splitter after burner miner - no ore on one belt

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darq wrote:Isn't this a bug?
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This is completely different from what was posted originally in this thread.
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Re: [0.16.36] splitter after burner miner - no ore on one belt

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Jap2.0 wrote:
darq wrote:Isn't this a bug?
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This is completely different from what was posted originally in this thread.
Actually, this is exactly what was posted originally in this thread.

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Re: [0.16.36] splitter after burner miner - no ore on one belt

Post by Zavian »

But it also doesn't seem to be a bug. There is no reason a 2x2 mining entity and a 3x3 mining entity should drop items onto belts in precisely the same sub-tile position.

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Re: [0.16.36] splitter after burner miner - no ore on one belt

Post by cbhj1 »

was playing around with the output vector in the burner drill file and found that going from -0.5 to -0.6 was enough to fix it for this, but break the reverse, looks like it will require a deeper fix, if at all

going to play around a little bit more, might be a small band where it will play nice, though I suspect it would require a change to the splitter instead ( moving the rear input of the splitter forward a hair)

edit: no luck finding a spot it would work, even a tiny shift to -0.51 from -0.5 was enough to reverse the error direction.

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Re: [0.16.36] splitter after burner miner - no ore on one belt

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kitcat wrote:
Jap2.0 wrote:
darq wrote:Isn't this a bug?
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This is completely different from what was posted originally in this thread.
Actually, this is exactly what was posted originally in this thread.
Maybe - I may have misidentified it. Are the miners still mining? If so, it's the same thing. If they've stopped, it's entirely different (which I thought was the case, but as an afterthought it's probably the former).
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Re: [0.16.36] splitter after burner miner - no ore on one belt

Post by Rseding91 »

Thanks for the report however this is the same logic as: viewtopic.php?f=23&t=43461

The drop vector of the drill happens to go to a location on the splitter which is different in different rotations.

You can tinker with the drop vector on the mining drill prototype to change where it's dropped which will change the results you get here. None of that is a bug.
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Re: [0.16.36] splitter after burner miner - no ore on one belt

Post by cbhj1 »

the odd part regarding the vector, it should be possible to locate a point that works regardless of rotation since it behaves that way for the electric drill, but it feels like fighting a rounding error since it isn't aligned with the entity center.

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