[0.15.1] Uran 235 not produced

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[0.15.1] Uran 235 not produced

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after checking why no uran 235 is produced i saw this here:

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i´m not sure but 0.0 is = 0 = nothing will be produced....so no atom energy for now?

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It is produced. But in very-very-very low amounts.
I have processed about 30k uranium ore and got only 39 uranium-235.

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That is not a bug, but we should certainly provide better info that it is actually 0.7% of probability of U-235

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ok thats quite low ;$ thanks anyway

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The milli- prefix would make sense (993m U238, 7m U235) (meaning 993 milliitems and 7 milliitems respectively), but at the same time i feel nobody would understand them, for some reason my poor English cannot comprehend. A micro- suffix should be easier to grasp, but it's no good for milli-scale.

Yeah, maybe it's better with %. Like, 99.3% U238, 0.7% U235, when it comes to probabilistic recipes. And if it doesn't add up to 100%, write, say, 2x (99.3% U238, 0.7% U235).

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Heck it's a game....
make the recipe take 100 ore and produce 99 U238 and 1 U235 with 100 duration instead of fooling around with milli-items produced.

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Optera wrote:Heck it's a game....
make the recipe take 100 ore and produce 99 U238 and 1 U235 with 100 duration instead of fooling around with milli-items produced.
I strongly agree with this idea. The random production of U235 is confusing for new players, and it creates uncertainty about when they'll get their first few. A 1000 ore to 99 U238 and 1 U235 would be expensive, but at least it would be immediately clear what's going on.

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Optera wrote:Heck it's a game....
make the recipe take 100 ore and produce 99 U238 and 1 U235 with 100 duration instead of fooling around with milli-items produced.
It would output 10x what it is outputting now and only take 1/10 of the ore amount it takes now using your numbers. Lets not change the balance to fix a display issue.

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Nemoricus wrote:
Optera wrote:Heck it's a game....
make the recipe take 100 ore and produce 99 U238 and 1 U235 with 100 duration instead of fooling around with milli-items produced.
I strongly agree with this idea. The random production of U235 is confusing for new players, and it creates uncertainty about when they'll get their first few. A 1000 ore to 99 U238 and 1 U235 would be expensive, but at least it would be immediately clear what's going on.
I agree that the ratio should not be random for realism. Any given atom may be random, but processing handles trillions of trillions of atoms, so any macroscopic sample (read: visible without a microscope) will yield products at the expected ratio.

If 100 ore is too much to collect at once, the devs could do like they did for fluids -- multiply the products by 10. 10 Uranium ore (or even 1 ore) to yield 99 U238 and 1 U235, and multiply the costs of other recipes to match.

Edit: Heroically posting in a dead thread, oops.

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Korentoth wrote: If 100 ore is too much to collect at once, the devs could do like they did for fluids -- multiply the products by 10. 10 Uranium ore (or even 1 ore) to yield 99 U238 and 1 U235, and multiply the costs of other recipes to match.
This only works for fluids because inserters and belts have a fixed throughput of items that you can't easily change, unlike pipes.

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