pY Raw Ores Discussion

[pyanodon]

Pyanodon,

did you mean to lock pressure pumps with blue science when not playing with PyHighTech (as PyRO is not a dependency)? If so, how do I get nitrogen?

If not, is an update coming or do I need to console command a few pumps into my game?

Thanks for your help

There´s an update coming.

[aklesey1]

Pyanodon,

did you mean to lock pressure pumps with blue science when not playing with PyHighTech (as PyRO is not a dependency)? If so, how do I get nitrogen?

If not, is an update coming or do I need to console command a few pumps into my game?

Thanks for your help

There´s an update coming.

Gigant epuc thanks for new update - i can have stable flow of SALT!!! I'm beside myself with happiness
Pyanodon i like u and ur mods so much
HUGE thanks again!

[mrbaggins]

why would a building be unlocked by do different techs at difference levels? I don't see how that makes any sense. Welcoming some enlightenment on this one

So that you can get required parts if you choose to take different paths.

It's a bit silly in this instance, but 0.17 is doing a fair bit to "split" the tech tree.

With mods, that could mean you need some item towards the ends of two completely distinct branches. Rather than forcing you to complete both, by unlocking it in two spots separately you can ensure that both sides get what they need.

[mrbaggins]

FNEI does not like having both a resource_category and crafting_category with the same name. "borax" and "niobium" being the ones in question. What happens is it collects all recipes into its own table, indexed on the category, and when it loops through the buildings for a recipe, sees them buildable in the borax or niobium mine, and looks for a mining_time on the recipe. The crafting recipe doesn't have a mining time, and lua promptly explodes.

A workaround is to open up the FNEI options page, and disable the borax and niobium crafting categories in the middle tab

Nice that a cause is known, bummer that Py and FNEI apparently aren't fixing it :/

It's a workaround, but doesn't solve the problem of not knowing how to craft/get something.

[TwentyEighty]

Gigant epuc thanks for new update - i can have stable flow of SALT!!! I'm beside myself with happiness
Pyanodon i like u and ur mods so much
HUGE thanks again!

How do you have so much extra saline water lying around?

[mrbaggins]

I source all my salt from salt mines in salty rocks. Easy, and very productive.

[aklesey1]

Gigant epuc thanks for new update - i can have stable flow of SALT!!! I'm beside myself with happiness
Pyanodon i like u and ur mods so much
HUGE thanks again!

How do you have so much extra saline water lying around?

I can saline water from stones, saline water can be getted from using tar in quenching tower whn getting iron ore + copper ore or getting raw borax + niobium ore - varian with quenching tower is more profitable
Stones can be getted from sand extractor or from groud borer or from another ways in solid separator and in clssifier
Or i can find rich stone deposites

[mxpal]

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i dont see how the higher tier nickel recipe is worth it........ any ideas?

[npuldon]

i dont see how the higher tier nickel recipe is worth it........ any ideas?

Agreed

[immortal_sniper1]

last time i did the math on paper higher was better try the same thing with 1000 or so to see since longer chains might need larger quantities in order to fill the belts of the intermediaries

[immortal_sniper1]

lets say the one way works in segments of 1 and the other in segments of 10 for some small numbers there might be funny results

[pyanodon]

also your "high level recipe" is missing several steps

[mxpal]

so i have to get to at least nickel pulp 02 recipe to be worth it? smelting grade 4 or pulp 01 into molten nickel is only there for misdirection?

[immortal_sniper1]

so i have to get to at least nickel pulp 02 recipe to be worth it? smelting grade 4 or pulp 01 into molten nickel is only there for misdirection?

try doing the ore/plte hellmod ratios with 1000 plate at the end then scale down

[TwentyEighty]

I think PyRO has destroyed the Zipir closed loop with saline water -> waste water (+ biofilm + filtration media) -> saline water. That lets you save roughly 20 salt per cycle. Now, biofilm requires rayon, which is a huge change. Also, each rayon now requires 1.67 sodium-carbonate, which requires, best case, 16.7 salts. That doesn't even include the other super expensive ingredients to rayon, like lead, sulfuric acid (more salt, probably), or all the ingredients to filtration media.

So, best case, you're saving 3 salt per cycle for a huge cost. So the closed loop is unusable and zipir farming now requires so, much, salt. All because rayon got added to biofilm and sodium-carbonate got added to rayon

[TwentyEighty]

Oh I guess that loop never worked lol nevermind. Zipirs just require that much salt I guess. They were designed with the closed loop in mind but don't function that way

[mrbaggins]

With the higher tier nickel, that last one is close enough to the first one that adding production modules would shoot it well over (at the expense of power)

that middle one is broken though.

[immortal_sniper1]

With the higher tier nickel, that last one is close enough to the first one that adding production modules would shoot it well over (at the expense of power)

that middle one is broken though.

first one 10:1
second 5:1 gr1 2 gr1:3 plate so 10 ore=3 plate

[mxpal]

With the higher tier nickel, that last one is close enough to the first one that adding production modules would shoot it well over (at the expense of power)

that middle one is broken though.

how do you add production modules to other py machines? as far as i know only chipshooter can use production modules.

[mxpal]

so i have to get to at least nickel pulp 02 recipe to be worth it? smelting grade 4 or pulp 01 into molten nickel is only there for misdirection?

try doing the ore/plte hellmod ratios with 1000 plate at the end then scale down

how does changing to 1000 plate affect anything? the ratio of plate to ore wont change by that