After quite a bit of thought, I came up with a compact and relatively inexpensive way to unload a two-cargo wagon train onto a single blue conveyor belt at the fastest possible speed for one inserter per chest. The design can be put on both sides of a track to allow the coveted 10 second cargo unload time.
http://gfycat.com/DearHardLadybird
It looks simple but this is actually a precise and subtly complex design. Even a slight deviation will result in lanes getting clogged. The problem is that 14 inserters (two wagon lengths) is very close to the number needed to fully saturate a single blue belt. As a result, you cannot side insert (with conveyors) along one whole lane - it will clog. You can't use inserters along an entire lane - it will clog. You can't load the top lane more than the bottom lane by more than a very small rate, or again, it will clog.
Here is an earlier iteration that has the same throughput but is much costlier / larger:
http://i.imgur.com/V1OOxhp.png
[Design] Two Cargo Wagons to Blue Belt fastest
[Design] Two Cargo Wagons to Blue Belt fastest
Last edited by Glyph on Sun Aug 17, 2014 8:14 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Re: [Design] Two Cargo Wagons to nearly saturated Blue Belt
Quick Q about this design.
If you have the stack bonus fully researched, is it better to use yellow basic inserters to unload the trains to chests or is it still better to use fast inserters?
If you have the stack bonus fully researched, is it better to use yellow basic inserters to unload the trains to chests or is it still better to use fast inserters?
Re: [Design] Two Cargo Wagons to nearly saturated Blue Belt
If the goal is to unload the trains as fast as possible, then fast inserters are the way to go. You could park the trains for longer and use yellow inserters if desired.therapist wrote:Quick Q about this design.
If you have the stack bonus fully researched, is it better to use yellow basic inserters to unload the trains to chests or is it still better to use fast inserters?
This design relies on the fact that trains won't always be at the station. If trains are being unloaded at this station 20% or less of the time, then the inserters will be able to empty the chests fast enough. "Being unloaded" means trains are both stopped at the station and have supplies to unload.
Re: [Design] Two Cargo Wagons to nearly saturated Blue Belt
This design clogs.DaveMcW wrote:
https://gfycat.com/DizzyUnacceptableIndigowingedparrot
edit: fixed that design. https://gfycat.com/FilthyFirmIcterinewarbler
Re: [Design] Two Cargo Wagons to Blue Belt fastest
Weird, I was under the impression that using the stack bonus was faster than just using fast inserters. So what you're saying is, even going from chest to chest, train to chest, or chest to assembler, a fast inserter will always be faster than a yellow inserter even with the fully upgraded stack bonus?Glyph wrote:If the goal is to unload the trains as fast as possible, then fast inserters are the way to go. You could park the trains for longer and use yellow inserters if desired.therapist wrote:Quick Q about this design.
If you have the stack bonus fully researched, is it better to use yellow basic inserters to unload the trains to chests or is it still better to use fast inserters?
This design relies on the fact that trains won't always be at the station. If trains are being unloaded at this station 20% or less of the time, then the inserters will be able to empty the chests fast enough. "Being unloaded" means trains are both stopped at the station and have supplies to unload.
Re: [Design] Two Cargo Wagons to Blue Belt fastest
Fast Inserters also use Stack Bonus size.therapist wrote:Weird, I was under the impression that using the stack bonus was faster than just using fast inserters. So what you're saying is, even going from chest to chest, train to chest, or chest to assembler, a fast inserter will always be faster than a yellow inserter even with the fully upgraded stack bonus?Glyph wrote:If the goal is to unload the trains as fast as possible, then fast inserters are the way to go. You could park the trains for longer and use yellow inserters if desired.therapist wrote:Quick Q about this design.
If you have the stack bonus fully researched, is it better to use yellow basic inserters to unload the trains to chests or is it still better to use fast inserters?
This design relies on the fact that trains won't always be at the station. If trains are being unloaded at this station 20% or less of the time, then the inserters will be able to empty the chests fast enough. "Being unloaded" means trains are both stopped at the station and have supplies to unload.
Re: [Design] Two Cargo Wagons to Blue Belt fastest
This design seems to have somewhat better throughput. It won't clog and is a bit cheaper. Note that the asymmetry is important - if you try to make the two halves look the same, you'll end up with a small gap in one of the output lanes, as with the designs above (something to do with the curves). I believe it's fine to shift the splitter right or left if desired.
Re: [Design] Two Cargo Wagons to Blue Belt fastest
Your design isn't possible anymore. Since 0.11.9 the inserters will be blocked by the electric poles and if one like to unload 2-sided you can't reach all inserters with substation.Glyph wrote:After quite a bit of thought, I came up with a compact and relatively inexpensive way to unload a two-cargo wagon train onto a single blue conveyor belt at the fastest possible speed for one inserter per chest. The design can be put on both sides of a track to allow the coveted 10 second cargo unload time.
http://gfycat.com/DearHardLadybird
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Re: [Design] Two Cargo Wagons to Blue Belt fastest
Adjust it a little bit, I see multiple ways of fitting some substations in there.
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