I haven't checked out XKinght's yet.
Digital Display, Yay!
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Re: Digital Display, Yay!
Dr. Walrus, your system works flawlessly. Even at a speed of several hundred items per seconds, it still keeps up
I haven't checked out XKinght's yet.
I haven't checked out XKinght's yet.
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Re: Digital Display, Yay!
Thank you. After seeing XKnight's brilliant solution at least I have that going for me. I've been studying XKnight's contraption from his blueprint and the space savingness and reuse of similar components is genius. When his display is used as a timer that increments up every game-tick, the display lags behind while timing but will still display the correct number once the timer is stopped and the display can catch up. I think it takes 9 or 10 game ticks as it's internal clock cycles along each display digit.DoctorWho? wrote:Dr. Walrus, your system works flawlessly. Even at a speed of several hundred items per seconds, it still keeps up
I haven't checked out XKinght's yet.
To save you some work if you want to see it in action, here's the blueprint string of my big timer. The input is on the bottom right power pole. Sending a green signal starts the timer, a red signal stops the timer, and a yellow signal stops and resets the timer.
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Re: Digital Display, Yay!
Cool.
On a side note: I used the modulo system to create a decimal to binary converter. I haven't setup the other way yet. I also used it to find the largest possible number in Factorio (2147483647 or 2^32-1)
On a side note: I used the modulo system to create a decimal to binary converter. I haven't setup the other way yet. I also used it to find the largest possible number in Factorio (2147483647 or 2^32-1)
Re: Digital Display, Yay!
Thanks to this discussion I've reviewed my previous digit display, and here is the result:XKnight wrote:I think I also can share my digit display in this topic, so... behold!
Details you can find here
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New design uses 11 combinators, 5 const comb and 1 combinator per digit (11 + 5 *0.5 + 1n).
To inspire other players I won't publish blueprint for new design, so you have several days to beat me
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Re: Digital Display, Yay!
I am very sad, that nobody even tried to make improved version of digital display 
As I promised:
1) place blueprint (wait until last element will be placed)
2) copy content from green const combinator to red const combinator (very important step; do not skip; should be done only by using "copy-paste entity settings")
3) Remove green const combinator and build green wire to test display
4) Have fun
P. S. I made a small mistake when counting elements, so: 11 combinators, 4 const comb and 1 combinator per digit (11 + 4 *0.5 + 1n).
As I promised:
Blueprint
How to use:1) place blueprint (wait until last element will be placed)
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Re: Digital Display, Yay!
Very nice! I'm wandering whether switching to a different base (say 100) would work.
Re: Digital Display, Yay!
Nope, theoretical limit is 31.piriform wrote:Very nice! I'm wandering whether switching to a different base (say 100) would work.
But I checked this build only for base = 10.
Update:
everything is ok for base = 5, but this requires some fine tuning:
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Re: Digit Display Blueprint
I updated my single digit display, using XKnight's integer overflow alphabet to cut the size in half. It can still be chained together for multiple digits.
Blueprint
Re: Digital Display, Yay!
Even with the source code, it is very hard to improve on!XKnight wrote:I am very sad, that nobody even tried to make improved version of digital display
I moved some constants around, and managed to eliminate one constant combinator.
Blueprint
Re: Digital Display, Yay!
Here is a 60 FPS version.
Blueprint
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Re: Digital Display, Yay!
You guys are really good at making your displays smaller and smaller! I really doubt I can improve on any of your's or DaveMcW's designs without doing some intense research.XKnight wrote:I am very sad, that nobody even tried to make improved version of digital display
Anyways here's my tileable single digit display. I used the 2 decider, multiplexer and constant combinators at the bottom to perform 2^x on the number to display and then uses the result to decode a lookup table in a the constant combinator at the top. The whole thing ended up being a lot less combinators than my previous display but still not great compared to the pros. Also the display looks like crap when updating the number every tick unless I add 4 more combinators for delay purposes. Oh well. I just wanted to show yall that Im trying.
Picture and blueprint string
Re: Digital Display, Yay!
IHere is a 60 FPS version.
Thanks!
Re: Digital Display, Yay!
Do you mean a base16 display?piriform wrote:and maybe alphamerics?
It is pretty easy to convert a single digit display to show single letters, but not very useful unless you define an input format.
Re: Digital Display, Yay!
I have a requirement for a nice compact N character parallel alphameric display (i.e sp,a-z,.0-9, maybe some special chars) but haven't had the time. Currently I'm wrestling with micro code, stomping out ticks and other bugs, so it'll be a while.
PS and I'm not too proud.
PS and I'm not too proud.
Re: Digital Display, Yay!
More features 
- 60 FPS
- Zero blank
- First 4 digits can be removed without breaking anything
Blueprint
Re: Digital Display, Yay!
Nice!
aaaaaand he's gone.. (as he books it with the Precious)
aaaaaand he's gone.. (as he books it with the Precious)
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Re: Digital Display, Yay!
This is my display I use, not as compact as some on here.
Re: Digital Display, Yay!
And here's an oldie but an oldie 
. I call it The Motivator!
. I call it The Motivator!
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