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Re: [MOD 0.17+] Deadlock's Industrial Revolution (WIP)

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Re: [MOD 0.17+] Deadlock's Industrial Revolution (WIP)

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Re: [MOD 0.17+] Deadlock's Industrial Revolution (WIP)

Post by Deadlock989 » Wed Jun 19, 2019 10:08 pm

Ore washers now show a "crafting tint" based on what they're washing.

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Post by ThaPear » Wed Jun 19, 2019 11:04 pm

Looking great! I love how your designs look, keep it up!


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Post by Mattyrogue » Tue Jul 02, 2019 12:10 pm

I just wanted to say, your Sprite Work is beautiful.

I might have to give your mod a try based on that alone. It feels so in theme with Factorio versus some of the other overhauls I've seen.

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Re: [MOD 0.17+] Deadlock's Industrial Revolution (WIP)

Post by Deadlock989 » Wed Jul 03, 2019 12:07 pm

The monitor above was an experiment .. and this is phase 2 of the experiment. The monitor became a hologram projector. Essentially it's just an electric signpost, but because it's a variant of lamp, it's controllable with the circuit and logistics networks and can be coloured. It's a bit dicey because ideally it would use a game entity that doesn't exist yet. This version makes a mess of the power statistics screen. But I'm happy with how it's turning out. Thanks to Staplergun for coming up with the gui interaction.
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Post by kingarthur » Wed Jul 03, 2019 12:31 pm

those projector/lamps??? are damn beautiful.

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Re: [MOD 0.17+] Deadlock's Industrial Revolution (WIP)

Post by Mernom » Thu Jul 04, 2019 9:41 am

Does this require special preparation for each sprite, or can it handle any projection?

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Post by Deadlock989 » Thu Jul 04, 2019 12:35 pm

Mernom wrote:
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Does this require special preparation for each sprite, or can it handle any projection?
Currently they can display any 128x128 icon (if told to). But it looks like pants if it isn't specially prepared, especially once signal colours get involved.

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Post by Deadlock989 » Sun Jul 07, 2019 10:43 am

Hologram experiments phase 3.

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Post by Mernom » Mon Jul 08, 2019 9:34 am

Why doesn't this forum have a like option...

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Re: [MOD 0.17+] Deadlock's Industrial Revolution (WIP)

Post by Deadlock989 » Sat Jul 20, 2019 7:36 pm

Someone was complaining about having too much oil, or not the right kind, or they couldn't figure out how to stop something being blocked, or something? Wasn't terribly clear what the problem was, if I'm honest. Oh well, just set fire to it.

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Re: [MOD 0.17+] Deadlock's Industrial Revolution (WIP)

Post by mrvn » Mon Jul 22, 2019 9:22 am

Deadlock989 wrote:
Sat Jul 20, 2019 7:36 pm
Someone was complaining about having too much oil, or not the right kind, or they couldn't figure out how to stop something being blocked, or something? Wasn't terribly clear what the problem was, if I'm honest. Oh well, just set fire to it.


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Re: [MOD 0.17+] Deadlock's Industrial Revolution (WIP)

Post by slippycheeze » Mon Jul 22, 2019 5:41 pm

mrvn wrote:
Mon Jul 22, 2019 9:22 am
Deadlock989 wrote:
Sat Jul 20, 2019 7:36 pm
Someone was complaining about having too much oil, or not the right kind, or they couldn't figure out how to stop something being blocked, or something? Wasn't terribly clear what the problem was, if I'm honest. Oh well, just set fire to it.


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Time to burn all that excess oxygen.
Two hundred percent support this strategy, BTW. It demands mods, which is annoying, but is the best strategy for dealing with fluid balancing issues in the oil system. Also the oxygen system, on whatever other mod "fluid" has similar production and consumption balancing issues.

For oil, clearly, cracking is the first port of call, but eventually that'll backlog on petrogras, so a solution that can never block one output forever is needed. Flare Stack implements a good, decently balanced for vanilla version of this.

Other mods add their own, but at the end of the day, some solution to destroy overproduction of oil that'll block the entire production chain is gonna be needed.

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Re: [MOD 0.17+] Deadlock's Industrial Revolution (WIP)

Post by Aquaholic27 » Wed Jul 24, 2019 8:51 am

I found out about this Mod-In-Progress from Krastorio's 'Full Compatibility with Deadlock's Industrial Revolution' goal, and I have to say, if that works out, this mod combo will be *incredible*.

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Re: [MOD 0.17+] Deadlock's Industrial Revolution (WIP)

Post by Deadlock989 » Wed Jul 24, 2019 9:04 am

Aquaholic27 wrote:
Wed Jul 24, 2019 8:51 am
I found out about this Mod-In-Progress from Krastorio's 'Full Compatibility with Deadlock's Industrial Revolution' goal, and I have to say, if that works out, this mod combo will be *incredible*.
I hope so. We're talking and it's productive. The mods seem to be a good match - DIR mostly focuses on revamping early and mid game, Krastorio is tilted more towards late game. And some of the base resource additions are the same (gold, sand) so recipe tweaking will be easier than some other mod combos. "Full compatibility" might just mean "the game doesn't halt with an error when you try to load both" or it might be a bit more than that. We'll see how it pans out.

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Re: [MOD 0.17+] Deadlock's Industrial Revolution (WIP)

Post by Deadlock989 » Wed Jul 24, 2019 9:44 am

Have been working on a replacement for the mooted oil nerf. Need to play it through and test the numbers but this is a sketch of what I've done so far.

Basic Oil Processing: Requires water like Advanced does (or maybe steam, depending on how annoying that turns out to be). Outputs heavy, light and petro in roughly equal quantities. Unlocks green petroleum coke, which can only be made from petro. Unlocks cracking immediately because that is literally what refining is. Unlocks a flare stack, not because it's actually needed (it isn't and never was, even in vanilla), but because fire and pretty lights and occasional laziness.

Sulphur processing, spelled the way God intended: inputs green petroleum coke (can be used as fuel with high fuel value but a bad pollutant) and outputs solid sulphur + refined coke (medium fuel value, low pollutant - formerly known as "solid fuel"). Refined coke is also useful as an ingredient (science packs, graphite electrodes).

Advanced Oil Processing: Tilts the outputs towards petro and gives what is essentially a productivity bonus. Requires a platinum-based catalyst (reusable but doesn't last forever) which gates this behind purple science and the final part of the ore processing chain.

Coal liquefaction: is now a chemical plant recipe. Outputs heavy and light only.

Lubricant doesn't change. Sulphuric acid doesn't need iron (there is a new acid that needs metals later in the chain). Plastics already changed before this - the root plastic product is a fluid - but it's still petro and carbon based. Overall there are two fewer recipes (or one fewer if you count the flare stack recipe, which I don't).
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Re: [MOD 0.17+] Deadlock's Industrial Revolution (WIP)

Post by Mernom » Sat Jul 27, 2019 11:03 am

Isn't Sulphur a side product of 'lightening' oil products? AKA the cracking process? (IRL)

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Re: [MOD 0.17+] Deadlock's Industrial Revolution (WIP)

Post by Deadlock989 » Mon Jul 29, 2019 2:30 pm

Assembling Machines 1 (copper/burner), 2 (iron) and 3 (steel/chrome/gold).

Tier 3 uses attenuated megawatt lasers to precision-cut and weld.
Tier 2 employs an arc welder and finely milled saw to fashion your components.
Tier 1 hits stuff hard with a big lump of copper.

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