[MOD 0.16.x, 0.17.x, 0.18.x, 1.1.x] SCTM

[Dechou]

Running some crash test I realised I didn't download bob's tech and revamp mods, wich didn't cause any problem until you update your mod to bobangel support. That was dumb of me, it's all running well now, my apologies...

[mexmer]

Running some crash test I realised I didn't download bob's tech and revamp mods, wich didn't cause any problem until you update your mod to bobangel support. That was dumb of me, it's all running well now, my apologies...

it's ok
i should properly check for bobtech mod presence, it's fixed now in 0.17.3

[raisins]

I get a soft lock when I click on "Advanced electronics 2" in the research tree screen. It only seems to be that tech. It was already researched, I was just clicking around to navigate the tree. I can hover over it and go to the techs before and after it with no problems.

This is in the middle of a seablocks campaign begun in 0.16, my research is beyond messed up with all the updates. Lots of things are unlocked that I don't have the prerequisites for now. Is that causing an infinite loop somehow?

[mexmer]

I get a soft lock when I click on "Advanced electronics 2" in the research tree screen. It only seems to be that tech. It was already researched, I was just clicking around to navigate the tree. I can hover over it and go to the techs before and after it with no problems.

This is in the middle of a seablocks campaign begun in 0.16, my research is beyond messed up with all the updates. Lots of things are unlocked that I don't have the prerequisites for now. Is that causing an infinite loop somehow?

there is problem, that science tree has changed a lot between 0.16 and 0.17
although i'm not aware of any cyclic in advanced electronis ... also game checks for cyclic on start, it would not allow mods to load with cyclic references in technology tree
that saying, it doesn't mean it will not allow to load game, when early recipe uses item researched later ... this kind of cyclic game engine cannot tell.

still what you describe sounds more like issue with technology tree rendering. my mod should not do anything to this one tho'. it's only used as dependency in t4 lab, but t4 lab is for purple/yellow science, so it' slong after advamced electronics 2 is unlocked.

[raisins]

More migration issues for Seablocks/bobs/anges/etc.

Happens on a new save so I think it's not just by my messed up tree.

The tech tree still has a "Logistics science pack" internally called "advanced-logistic-science-pack". It's a prerequisite of only 5 techs

Logistics 4
Personal roboport 2
Character logistics slots 5
Toolbelt 3
Lab MK2.

The other things it's supposed to be linked to it just have no visible pack in their tree.

The tech "Commercial AI Implementation" internally "sct-research-logistic" is invisible. It's nevertheless a prerequisite of a dozen techs including the 5 above.

If i force it with the console those 5 are now linked to both versions.

Both techs unlock the science packs and the components.

[mexmer]

can you post list of mods, because i have not seen such thing on my test. but i use only bobs and angels, no other mods involved.

[raisins]

I went to just bobs, angels and SCT to check, still happens:

Modlist

angelsbioprocessing is patched from here viewtopic.php?f=190&t=66506 if that matters somehow.

Reproduce:

Start new game, open research, search logistics



/c game.player.force.technologies['advanced-logistic-science-pack'].researched=true
/c game.player.force.technologies['toolbelt-2'].researched=true


/c game.player.force.technologies['sct-research-logistic'].researched=true

[mexmer]

should be fixed in 0.17.6

[Darkhound]

I get this error on starting a new (seablock) map, would this be something you can fix? I find bob's angels really boring without your mod :p

The mod ScienceCostTweaker Mod (mexmer) caused a non-recoverable error.
Please report this error to the mod author.

Error while running event ScienceCostTweakerM::on_player_created (ID 24)
The mod Research Queue: The Old New Thing caused a non-recoverable error.
Please report this error to the mod author.

Error while running event research-queue-the-old-new-thing::on_research_finished (ID 18)
...rch-queue-the-old-new-thing__/functions/update_queue.lua:136: attempt to compare number with nil
stack traceback:
...rch-queue-the-old-new-thing__/functions/update_queue.lua:136: in function 'remove_research'
__research-queue-the-old-new-thing__/control.lua:210: in function <__research-queue-the-old-new-thing__/control.lua:204>
stack traceback:
__ScienceCostTweakerM__/control.lua:15: in function 'unlockstart'
__ScienceCostTweakerM__/control.lua:43: in function <__ScienceCostTweakerM__/control.lua:42>
stack traceback:
[C]: in function '__newindex'
__ScienceCostTweakerM__/control.lua:15: in function 'unlockstart'
__ScienceCostTweakerM__/control.lua:43: in function <__ScienceCostTweakerM__/control.lua:42>

I'm trying to run these mods:

"name": "base",
"name": "A Sea Block Config",
"name": "AfraidOfTheDark",
"name": "angelsaddons-warehouses",
"name": "angelsbioprocessing",
"name": "angelspetrochem",
"name": "angelsrefining",
"name": "angelssmelting",
"name": "bobassembly",
"name": "bobelectronics",
"name": "bobenemies",
"name": "bobinserters",
"name": "boblibrary",
"name": "boblogistics",
"name": "bobmining",
"name": "bobmodules",
"name": "bobplates",
"name": "bobpower",
"name": "bobrevamp",
"name": "bobtech",
"name": "bobwarfare",
"name": "Bottleneck",
"name": "cargo-ships",
"name": "CircuitProcessing",
"name": "creative-mod",
"name": "Explosive Excavation",
"name": "FNEI",
"name": "helmod",
"name": "KS_Power",
"name": "LandfillPainting",
"name": "LogisticTrainNetwork",
"name": "long-reach",
"name": "Nuclear Fuel",
"name": "OpteraLib",
"name": "RecExplo",
"name": "research-queue-the-old-new-thing",
"name": "ScienceCostTweakerM",
"name": "SeaBlock",
"name": "seablock-mining",
"name": "SeaBlockMetaPack",
"name": "SpaceMod",
"name": "Squeak Through",
"name": "WaterWell",

[mexmer]

Hi, is this error on multilayer or singleplayer?

[Darkhound]

Single player

[mexmer]

remove
research-queue-old-new-thing mod, seems he is not properly doing sanity checks when messing with research tree, it's up to author of that mod to fix it.

[Darkhound]

Ah, thanks for the info! I'll relay this info to that mod also (if I can)

[15Redstones]

Bug: HD icons wrong

When enabling the HD icons setting, the icons of red, green and yellow science don't match: Red science is yellow, green is red and yellow is green.
Using full Seablock for 0.17.

Edit: It's a conflict with Bob's tech, if both SCTM:HD icons and Bobtech:Science pack color update are enabled, Bobtech overrides the HD icons but if HD icons isn't enabled, it doesn't for some reason.

Conflict between Bobtech/data-updates and SCTM/prototypes/entities/sciencepacks which is run through SCTM/data.

Apparently the non-HD option uses

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SCTM/sciencepacks.lua
data.raw["tool"]["automation-science-pack"].icons =
	{
		{
			icon = "__ScienceCostTweakerM__/graphics/icons/science-pack-1.png",
			icon_size = 32,
		},
	}

which isn't overwritten by Bobtech's

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Bobtech/data-updates.lua
data.raw.tool["automation-science-pack"].icon = "__base__/graphics/icons/utility-science-pack.png"
data.raw.tool["automation-science-pack"].icon_size = 32

while the HD option uses

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SCTM/sciencepacks.lua
data.raw["tool"]["automation-science-pack"].icon_size = 64
data.raw["tool"]["automation-science-pack"].icon = "__ScienceCostTweakerM__/graphics/icons/science-pack-1-64.png"

which is.

It's a really weird behaviour that results in mismatched item/technology icons but only when HD icons are used.
To fix it I'd change the HD icon code to be similar to the non-HD icon code.

[mexmer]

HD icons were just experiment, and i plan to remove them, that's why they are only for some and not all items.

[Bizobinator]

Is there a way to toggle the mod, such that it increases the science costs, but doesn't change the recipes?

[minno]

Is there a way to toggle the mod, such that it increases the science costs, but doesn't change the recipes?

Without any mods, you can change the research cost multiplier to make techs take more science packs, which accomplishes about the same thing.

[Bizobinator]

Is there any way to do that in a game you've already started?

[minno]

You can use a console command:

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/c game.difficulty_settings.technology_price_multiplier = 4

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[GrimerX]

I made a change to the mod to make a few minor updates:
- Corrected settings text to match actual settings
- Added a 2nd "Normal" config that doesn't have 1/2 cost T1 research
- Added optional dependency to MoreSciencePacks so load order is correct and tweaks are applied to those researches

I've attached the updated mod in case you want to incorporate these changes.

One other thing I noticed is the Normal configuration claimed to increase infinite research by 2x, when in fact it leaves it at 1x. Not sure if that is WAD or not. I did update the text to reflect it is 1x.

ScienceCostTweakerM_0.17.9.zip

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Cheers!