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[foodfactorio]

i played some AngelBobYuoki, and managed to get a fairly decent setup with the Washing plant

(if you see the picture, it works step by step from the bottom of the screen with the Sea Floor Pump area, 2nd washer from the bottom)
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[mrvn]

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Got that too now when I tried a new game with a new Sea Block mod pack. Maybe my first mod version was too beta or some other mod interfered with it. On my first try I only ever got wood. Now I got gardens and from those I can strip seeds.

Only got desert gardens in Sea Block though. Needs some fixup to have different biomes on the map.

not sure, how you plan to get other types of biomes in seablock, since you are on desert island and all islands around are desert.

at least from my many hours (in fact it was days of playtime) playing seablock, i never seen anything except desert, unless i made different kind of landfill, but keep in mind, nonvanilla ground doesn't spawn garden.

By changing the map generator hacks so that you have other islands too. A little swamp patch here and temperate island there. I'm also considering changing fertilizer or landfill to have a small chance of growing gardens, maybe just grow it if it was supposed to be there but was removed because of water.
And there is also the option of simply putting some seeds into the starter chest.

[Jackalope_Gaming]

Suggestions:

Can we have an option within Angel's Infinite Ore to make the infinite ore within the regular ore, without having to use RSO? This would allow people to not have to fiddle with RSO's settings if they want to try vanilla generation. RSO is also not supported by the map generation preview, so if we want to have the combination patches then we won't have the quality of life option to look at a map preview.

Would it be possible to split up infinite ore acid use based on the ore itself and not an all or nothing deal? One easy situation with that is having infinite saphirite and stiratite be mined without the fluids, but the other ores would need it.

[Light]

Suggestions:
Would it be possible to split up infinite ore acid use based on the ore itself and not an all or nothing deal? One easy situation with that is having infinite saphirite and stiratite be mined without the fluids, but the other ores would need it.

Infinite coal doesn't require any chemical, making it a very potent source for a lot of mid/late game chemicals and items. That alone is OP enough to create infinite sulfuric acid, thus nullifying the requirements for those two ores.

[mexmer]

Suggestions:

Can we have an option within Angel's Infinite Ore to make the infinite ore within the regular ore, without having to use RSO? This would allow people to not have to fiddle with RSO's settings if they want to try vanilla generation. RSO is also not supported by the map generation preview, so if we want to have the combination patches then we won't have the quality of life option to look at a map preview.

Would it be possible to split up infinite ore acid use based on the ore itself and not an all or nothing deal? One easy situation with that is having infinite saphirite and stiratite be mined without the fluids, but the other ores would need it.

you don't need RSO for infinite ores. and you will not see infinite ore patches in preview, because they are created programatically by map generator modification after you start game.

[AlexMos]

Please explain me how can i get mud or dirty types of water with it. I'm playing 15 hours with Angel mods and I still dont understand and I cant make clay bricks.

[Sn1gger]

Please explain me how can i get mud or dirty types of water with it. I'm playing 15 hours with Angel mods and I still dont understand and I cant make clay bricks.

A seafloor pump and washing plant are what you're after

[AlexMos]

Thanks! I guess developer would do well to add information about what this building (seafloor pump) produces (in building pop-up window).

[OvermindDL1]

Anyone have any ways to get gardens when using the alien biomes mod? It seems the vanilla biomes are hardcoded (and I'd prefer not to locally edit the mod as that makes putting it on the server more troublesome for players).

[Termak]

Anyone have any ways to get gardens when using the alien biomes mod? It seems the vanilla biomes are hardcoded (and I'd prefer not to locally edit the mod as that makes putting it on the server more troublesome for players).

I ended up using console commands to just create them into my inventory and using mod to not disable achievements.

[Arch666Angel]

Anyone have any ways to get gardens when using the alien biomes mod? It seems the vanilla biomes are hardcoded (and I'd prefer not to locally edit the mod as that makes putting it on the server more troublesome for players).

They should still spawn, as alien-biomes uses the vanilla tiles, but they might be super rare. I'll talk to earendal if he can come up with a biomes list, but I'm also open to suggestions. Also might be a case for some super special volcanic gardens?!

[IanRaven]

Anyone have any ways to get gardens when using the alien biomes mod? It seems the vanilla biomes are hardcoded (and I'd prefer not to locally edit the mod as that makes putting it on the server more troublesome for players).

They should still spawn, as alien-biomes uses the vanilla tiles, but they might be super rare. I'll talk to earendal if he can come up with a biomes list, but I'm also open to suggestions. Also might be a case for some super special volcanic gardens?!

Angel you can use this code in bio-processing-override.lua to have the gardens in alien biomes.

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if data.raw.tile["frozen-snow-0"] then
	data.raw.tree["temperate-garden"].autoplace.tile_restriction = {"vegetation-blue-grass-1", "vegetation-blue-grass-2", 
																	"vegetation-green-grass-1", "vegetation-green-grass-2", "vegetation-green-grass-3", "vegetation-green-grass-4", 
																	"vegetation-mauve-grass-1", "vegetation-mauve-grass-2", 
																	"vegetation-olive-grass-1", "vegetation-olive-grass-2",
																	"vegetation-orange-grass-1", "vegetation-orange-grass-2", 
																	"vegetation-purple-grass-1", "vegetation-purple-grass-2", 
																	"vegetation-red-grass-1","vegetation-red-grass-2", 
																	"vegetation-turquoise-grass-1", "vegetation-turquoise-grass-2", 
																	"vegetation-violet-grass-1", "vegetation-violet-grass-2", 
																	"vegetation-yellow-grass-1", "vegetation-yellow-grass-2"}
	data.raw.tree["temperate-tree-1"].autoplace.tile_restriction = {"vegetation-blue-grass-1", "vegetation-blue-grass-2", 
																	"vegetation-green-grass-1", "vegetation-green-grass-2", "vegetation-green-grass-3", "vegetation-green-grass-4", 
																	"vegetation-mauve-grass-1", "vegetation-mauve-grass-2", 
																	"vegetation-olive-grass-1", "vegetation-olive-grass-2",
																	"vegetation-orange-grass-1", "vegetation-orange-grass-2", 
																	"vegetation-purple-grass-1", "vegetation-purple-grass-2", 
																	"vegetation-red-grass-1","vegetation-red-grass-2", 
																	"vegetation-turquoise-grass-1", "vegetation-turquoise-grass-2", 
																	"vegetation-violet-grass-1", "vegetation-violet-grass-2", 
																	"vegetation-yellow-grass-1", "vegetation-yellow-grass-2"}
	data.raw.tree["desert-garden"].autoplace.tile_restriction = {"mineral-aubergine-sand-1", "mineral-aubergine-sand-2", "mineral-aubergine-sand-3",
																"mineral-beige-sand-1", "mineral-beige-sand-2", "mineral-beige-sand-3", 
																"mineral-black-sand-1", "mineral-black-sand-2", "mineral-black-sand-3", 
																"mineral-brown-sand-1", "mineral-brown-sand-2", "mineral-brown-sand-3",
																"mineral-cream-sand-1", "mineral-cream-sand-2", "mineral-cream-sand-3", 
																"mineral-dustyrose-sand-1", "mineral-dustyrose-sand-2", "mineral-dustyrose-sand-3", 
																"mineral-grey-sand-1", "mineral-grey-sand-2", "mineral-grey-sand-3", 
																"mineral-purple-sand-1", "mineral-purple-sand-2", "mineral-purple-sand-3", 
																"mineral-red-sand-1", "mineral-red-sand-2", "mineral-red-sand-3", 
																"mineral-tan-sand-1", "mineral-tan-sand-2", "mineral-tan-sand-3", 
																"mineral-violet-sand-1", "mineral-violet-sand-2", "mineral-violet-sand-3", 
																"mineral-white-sand-1", "mineral-white-sand-2", "mineral-white-sand-3" 
																}
	data.raw.tree["swamp-garden"].autoplace.tile_restriction = {"mineral-aubergine-dirt-1", "mineral-aubergine-dirt-2", "mineral-aubergine-dirt-3", "mineral-aubergine-dirt-4", "mineral-aubergine-dirt-5", "mineral-aubergine-dirt-6",
																"mineral-beige-dirt-1", "mineral-beige-dirt-2", "mineral-beige-dirt-3", "mineral-beige-dirt-4", "mineral-beige-dirt-5", "mineral-beige-dirt-6",
																"mineral-black-dirt-1", "mineral-black-dirt-2", "mineral-black-dirt-3", "mineral-black-dirt-4", "mineral-black-dirt-5", "mineral-black-dirt-6",
																"mineral-brown-dirt-1", "mineral-brown-dirt-2", "mineral-brown-dirt-3", "mineral-brown-dirt-4", "mineral-brown-dirt-5", "mineral-brown-dirt-6",
																"mineral-cream-dirt-1", "mineral-cream-dirt-2", "mineral-cream-dirt-3", "mineral-cream-dirt-4", "mineral-cream-dirt-5", "mineral-cream-dirt-6", 
																"mineral-dustyrose-dirt-1", "mineral-dustyrose-dirt-2", "mineral-dustyrose-dirt-3", "mineral-dustyrose-dirt-4", "mineral-dustyrose-dirt-5", "mineral-dustyrose-dirt-6", 
																"mineral-grey-dirt-1", "mineral-grey-dirt-2", "mineral-grey-dirt-3", "mineral-grey-dirt-4", "mineral-grey-dirt-5", "mineral-grey-dirt-6", 
																"mineral-purple-dirt-1", "mineral-purple-dirt-2", "mineral-purple-dirt-3", "mineral-purple-dirt-4", "mineral-purple-dirt-5", "mineral-purple-dirt-6",
																"mineral-red-dirt-1", "mineral-red-dirt-2", "mineral-red-dirt-3", "mineral-red-dirt-4", "mineral-red-dirt-5", "mineral-red-dirt-6", 
																"mineral-tan-dirt-1", "mineral-tan-dirt-2", "mineral-tan-dirt-3", "mineral-tan-dirt-4", "mineral-tan-dirt-5", "mineral-tan-dirt-6", 
																"mineral-violet-dirt-1", "mineral-violet-dirt-2", "mineral-violet-dirt-3", "mineral-violet-dirt-4", "mineral-violet-dirt-5", "mineral-violet-dirt-6", 
																"mineral-white-dirt-1", "mineral-white-dirt-2", "mineral-white-dirt-3", "mineral-white-dirt-4", "mineral-white-dirt-5", "mineral-white-dirt-6" 
																}
	data.raw.tree["swamp-tree-1"].autoplace.tile_restriction = {"mineral-aubergine-dirt-1", "mineral-aubergine-dirt-2", "mineral-aubergine-dirt-3", "mineral-aubergine-dirt-4", "mineral-aubergine-dirt-5", "mineral-aubergine-dirt-6",
																"mineral-beige-dirt-1", "mineral-beige-dirt-2", "mineral-beige-dirt-3", "mineral-beige-dirt-4", "mineral-beige-dirt-5", "mineral-beige-dirt-6",
																"mineral-black-dirt-1", "mineral-black-dirt-2", "mineral-black-dirt-3", "mineral-black-dirt-4", "mineral-black-dirt-5", "mineral-black-dirt-6",
																"mineral-brown-dirt-1", "mineral-brown-dirt-2", "mineral-brown-dirt-3", "mineral-brown-dirt-4", "mineral-brown-dirt-5", "mineral-brown-dirt-6",
																"mineral-cream-dirt-1", "mineral-cream-dirt-2", "mineral-cream-dirt-3", "mineral-cream-dirt-4", "mineral-cream-dirt-5", "mineral-cream-dirt-6", 
																"mineral-dustyrose-dirt-1", "mineral-dustyrose-dirt-2", "mineral-dustyrose-dirt-3", "mineral-dustyrose-dirt-4", "mineral-dustyrose-dirt-5", "mineral-dustyrose-dirt-6", 
																"mineral-grey-dirt-1", "mineral-grey-dirt-2", "mineral-grey-dirt-3", "mineral-grey-dirt-4", "mineral-grey-dirt-5", "mineral-grey-dirt-6", 
																"mineral-purple-dirt-1", "mineral-purple-dirt-2", "mineral-purple-dirt-3", "mineral-purple-dirt-4", "mineral-purple-dirt-5", "mineral-purple-dirt-6",
																"mineral-red-dirt-1", "mineral-red-dirt-2", "mineral-red-dirt-3", "mineral-red-dirt-4", "mineral-red-dirt-5", "mineral-red-dirt-6", 
																"mineral-tan-dirt-1", "mineral-tan-dirt-2", "mineral-tan-dirt-3", "mineral-tan-dirt-4", "mineral-tan-dirt-5", "mineral-tan-dirt-6", 
																"mineral-violet-dirt-1", "mineral-violet-dirt-2", "mineral-violet-dirt-3", "mineral-violet-dirt-4", "mineral-violet-dirt-5", "mineral-violet-dirt-6", 
																"mineral-white-dirt-1", "mineral-white-dirt-2", "mineral-white-dirt-3", "mineral-white-dirt-4", "mineral-white-dirt-5", "mineral-white-dirt-6" 
																}
end

Dirt biomes -> swamp gardens and trees
Sand biomes -> desert gardens
Vegetation biomes -> temperate gardens and trees
Frozen and volcanic get nothing but it would be awesome some new gardens specific to these biomes

Also you could paint their location on the minimap for the colour blind like me , I don't know if it is just me but to me those swamp gardens are almost invisible

[MadClown01]

Just noticed that with 16.22, the game now supports allow_as_intermediate as an optional recipe prototype! This could be a great way to clean up some of the "raw ingredients" windows. I suggest adding "allow-as-intermediate = false" to all casting recipes. That way crafting machines, science etc actually shows the plates we need rather than giving a list of 100 seeds, obscure raw minerals and fluids

[foodfactorio]

Please explain me how can i get mud or dirty types of water with it. I'm playing 15 hours with Angel mods and I still dont understand and I cant make clay bricks.

hi alex, if you get stuck just scroll up a bit to this post here, its a screen showing the setup i did for getting clay brinks the other day
viewtopic.php?f=185&t=19652&start=2320#p339430
brinks = bricks lol

[foodfactorio]

i found a rock called "crystal rock" (from angels refining), and it gives me 20 stone when mined by hand...
do you know if this will actually also be able to give anything else?

(the rock looks like stone with orange crystal rods inside it)... im guessing that i need more tech to unlock but not sure?

[brab]

i think by default cheap steel override is not enabled, so you need 5 plates for 1 steel. you need to enable it mod setting.

I found the mod setting in my current game and indeed, cheap steel override is enabled in Bob's settings.

I tried to start a new game and going to the mod settings, I also found that it was enabled by default. (I've never changed any mod setting before, so I'm confident it's the default.)

Is this something Angels Mods override? Because if so it's not working for me. (I'm still using the 0.15 compatible set of mods.)

[ukezi]

yes, in 0.16.

[ukezi]

I thought you had to be masochistic for petrocem but the new additions to bioprosessing are just something else. so much by products and complexity, it is glorious. But I think maybe a little to strong compared what you need compared to alge processing.

[Light]

[Termak]

Will the "new" patched gardens spawn on already explored terrain or do i need to go explore further?
I need to push my wall finally a bit so it prolly isnt problem.