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[2.0.9] Train stations are marked as inaccessible

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It says "Stop is inaccessible from current position". Yet I can manually drive a train around and access the stops.
I have three trains built, one shows all stops available. One shows two stops. One shows one stop.
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Re: [2.0.9] Train stations are marked as inaccessible

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If you can manually drive there, but the train wont go when in automatic mode, it means to me that the signals are incorrect. Maybe missing one, or having accidentally a segment that is reversed causing a path do transform in dead end for the automatic train. Manual driving ignore signals.
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Re: [2.0.9] Train stations are marked as inaccessible

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I have the same problem, the trains show alert "Train cannot find path to destination.". When I click on the train and hover over the next station, the hint says "All 11 stops are inaccessible from current position.". However, such trains sometimes depart once a free place occurs in one of the destination stations. Thus, possibly the message should be "Destination full." and it should not be an alert. Also, the involved trains behave weirdly when clicking their station "play" buttons, for instance it is possible to obtain the following result as in the attached picture.

The problem appeared after updating my base from Factorio 1.x to 2.x. It occurs only on two train lines among >100 lines using the same train network.
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Re: [2.0.9] Train stations are marked as inaccessible

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I should have been a little more specific. This message displays in the "Add Station" drop-down.
It doesn't make senses to me that one train allows access all stations, and another train cannot. Very strange bug.
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Re: [2.0.9] Train stations are marked as inaccessible

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I had the same issue with my (very simple) train line, it was a linear route with loops on the end, and the issue popped up once I added a spur.

Without modifying the route or signals, the train could find a route once I loaded 2.0.10, so perhaps something in there fixed it.
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Re: [2.0.9] Train stations are marked as inaccessible

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I've just updated to 2.0.10 and the problem is still there. Also it seems that sometimes the train colors change when I change the mode between automatic and manual. Something is definitely wrong...

I rerouted all the involved trains to other schedules. And after a couple of hours of gameplay the problem is back for new trains on the same routes. It seems that it is caused in ~5 stations - the trains which visit these stations enter this weird bugged mode.
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You could posts saves of thoses maps maybe someone could spot somethings, and it may have different setups wether the game was created with an older version, or with mods or with a specific 2.X version. Specifically the rails are different i think it would be helpful to rule out any interaction related to this.
bll wrote: Thu Oct 24, 2024 9:22 pm I should have been a little more specific. This message displays in the "Add Station" drop-down.
It doesn't make senses to me that one train allows access all stations, and another train cannot. Very strange bug.
If both trains have the same lengh and were sent to the same place with automatic schedule, they should indeed have the same stations showing up as "available" in the drop down list from this place.

It can happen with reversing trains manually driven that a tiny bit is missing, and it can't turn back even though it look like it should. Maybe a train regularly takes damage or gets destroyed and rebuilt without notice, those kind of other things can be ruled out with a savegame.
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Re: [2.0.9] Train stations are marked as inaccessible

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It seems that these are two (three?) independent problems by three different people.

In my case the train network is a simple grid with all stations available from all stations (and all rails working one-direction).

I cannot attach the save as it is 240 MB big... The problem regards only two routes and seems to be triggered at specific 5 stops on these routes.

I don't use any MODs, and the game has been started like a year or so ago so it dates back to Factorio 1.x.

Now I manually controlled a single train from another line for a moment (then returned it to it's schedule). After that suddenly 21 trains on this other line have the same problem with "cannot reach station".

It seems that a single inaccessible station (among many with the same name) already turns the whole schedule of trains which include that station problematic.
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I had one signal on the wrong side of the tracks.
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