Achievements for free?

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Leris
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Achievements for free?

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Hi all!

I am relatively new still, only just finished my first rocket, yay. During now, I am hunting for achievements.

As I play rather seldom, I also go to multiplayer sessions some times and take a look at their big factories. It is really impressing how big they will get with just a bit of teamwork, much bigger than my single-player factory anyway.

Here is the problem:

When I joined one multiplayer server and without even doing anything yet, I received 10 or 15 achievements for free! Because their factory was so big, it surpassed many production thresholds, etc.

Now when I return to my single-player factory, I feel somehow robbed. I can't ever achieve these feats by myself.

This even led to me not wanting to join multiplayer anymore, because I could "earn" even more achievements this way.

Only achievements left for me currently seem absurdly hard (spoon, etc), and all the realistic ones are already marked as "achieved".

I would suggest either limiting (some ?) achievements to single-player only. This has a draw-back because people also want to achieve things together with friends, so maybe have multiplayer-achievements seperately as well?

Alternatively, how about a way to "toggle off" a certain achievement manually? So you can start gathering it again from zero. That would be the quick-and-dirty solution to my problem. Of course Steam would still show, I achieved all those earlier.

Not sure if this is a good enough solution, but wanted to share the problem. Thanks for adding Achievements though, always a pleasure to hunt! :)

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Post by blueblue »

I agree that this is a problem. One way to solve this would be to distinguish between sp games, private mp games (lan or w/ password) and public mp games. One could then make different achievements for these categories.

I can suggest two temporary fixes for you. You can unlock all the achievements anew if you are playing with a mod. So add a meaningless mod like the piano player and play your singleplayer save. Just dont forget to remove it before you go into multiplayer. The other way would be to take a look at the achievements.dat file (win7: user/username/appdata/roaming/factorio/achiements.dat). I havent tried editing it yet, it might be hashed or something, but maybe if you rename it you can unlock the achievements again and get the achievement tracking again.

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Post by Deadly-Bagel »

I think an option in the settings would be ideal, by default achievements are disabled in multiplayer but you can enable them. Wube have suggested requiring you be active on a server for a period of time before achievements become available which would also work, maybe at least 1/2 server uptime capped at 4 hours or something.

You can delete the Achievements.dat file and it will reset them UNLESS you play through Steam which will re-complete them. You can play the standalone (even if you bought through Steam) with this method, or as above you can install a mod which will migrate you to "modded achievements" which are treated separately to vanilla achievements (and will not complete them on Steam).
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Perhaps the game could keep production stats per-player? Every production entity's got a last-user tag anyway.

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Post by RamsesIV. »

I stopped trying to hunt for achievements. In 0.14 i had almost all of them and the game crashed once and all was lost for some reason. There is a file called achievements I think and if you delete it, you will reset them :)

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