[2.0.12 SA] Quality on biter eggs feels very discouraging

[Camalie]

In brainstorming various ways to get quality biter eggs I found that capturing nests with high quality capture bots gives a quality nest, and thought I had cleverly figured it out-- but disappointingly, they only produce normal quality eggs--

Loving Space Age so far, it feels amazing even compared to the previous titan (SE). But these damn eggs is my first big disappointment. Is it impossible to get quality on them?

I've gradually been setting up smaller production lines for higher quality intermediaries, from using quality modules in miners all the way up to producing quality supercapacitors and blue circuits directly from recipe. I naively thought this was the clean/elegant/intended goal of having qualities in the game. Sure, there's the recycle loop, but that's there as a way to gamble or "brute force" a quality jump on specific products by wasting resources (and it doesn't feel particularly rewarding at a large scale). When I unlocked the mech armor, I was able to craft using uncommon ingredients directly for example, which felt good and rewarding.

But now... I made a single egg with quality by recycling 100 × T3 productivity modules... Is doing brute force recycling loops truly the "intended" way to make biolabs or T3 productivity with higher quality? Did I miss something?

Because now I'm having a sort of crisis of faith wondering what was the point of setting up all those quality production lines if there's going to be more troll intermediaries/resources that just say "lol fuck all of your setup and design, time to just recycle (hundreds of) thousands of items and wait"? I'm looking at you, asteroid chunks...

I mean, even fish is breedable with quality modules! Let there be a way.

[Stargateur]

indeed it's feel weird, thus it's possible to brute force it, just it's more costly than for other module

[angramania]

But now... I made a single egg with quality by recycling 100 × T3 productivity modules... Is doing brute force recycling loops truly the "intended" way to make biolabs or T3 productivity with higher quality? Did I miss something?

You can recycle quality items too. You will get components with quality not lower than recycled item. Also you can use quality quality modules. With epic/legendary T2/3 quality modules to electromagnetic plant you will receive good percent of uncommon/rare T3 modules from normal eggs. Recycle them to get rare/epic egs to craft epic/legendary biolabs/T3. Builtin 50% productivity of EM plant compensates a bit for 75% loss of recycler.

[mmmPI]

I mean, even fish is breedable with quality modules! Let there be a way.

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[Stargateur]

after some playing with quality, I found out the best to get bitter egg legendary was to recycler them simply, I don't know why but I was focus on only recycling end product module 3 but actually recycle bitter egg with quality module to slowly grind legendary bitter egg is probably the best for this case, they don't cost that must in bioflux, you just need lot of bitter egg... I kill the extra nest I have cost they was producing too much egg........ .... I guess I'm gonna need to make spawner myself now... .... ...

[kimbernator]

Brute force recycling with 6 spawners has been giving me a couple legendary eggs per hour. I was getting a slightly higher rate by also keeping epic ones and turning them into epic prod 3 modules then recycling those, but the supply chain was annoying and it wasn't a substantial gain.

I wonder about the feasibility of making and recycling overgrowth soil on Gleba for quality eggs. The egg transport would be annoying and keeping seed supply up would be tough, though.