@ssilk: Reminds me to ask, is there any plans to add in real circuitry? As in like, real logic gates, wire a to wire b results in a logical output, like how KOHCKPYKTOP and Minecraft redstone does. Current way to use smart inserters and inventories with some random item in it feels cheesy heh. @cerb...

Thanks for moving it.

Oh! I totally overlooked that having 2 radars and 6 pumps instead of 1 and 3 increases the consumption from 390 to 780. No wonder adding more pumps increased boiler usage by 2-3 each, because adding more pumps redistributed more power to them from the radars, not increased water throughput! And actu...

Ah, that could work. Also test with my method, where you add furnaces until right before they start stacking up and belts become fully compressed. Have you tested for the max throughput of fast belts?

@ssilk: With how simple and effective my electric furnace setup is I get the best of both worlds :D And the % loss is actually quite noticeable. The decompression bottleneck and the belt merge point I mentioned and cerb measured and made a picture of would limit my setup to only be able to output 8 ...

Oh, cool, you replied. Was going to PM you heh. I'm so not used to forums that are actually active (Tekkit forums) xD. But yeah, I read that part on wiki where the tests need to be redone, don't worry. Without pictures, it's hard to visualize what you're describing, and unfortunately, on your last s...

Ah, I see what you mean. You meant each small pump would only supply about half of each row, which is 5, and 15 is 3 half rows of 5 each. Funny that using multiple small pumps didn't occur to me when I actually read that same thread you linked just a day ago heh. But yeah, thanks for spotting the mi...

I'm aware yes. But I'm also pointing out that the method I use to calculate is much simpler to do. Give it a try, add smelting speeds on all furnaces outputting on a fast belt to get the total amount, divide that by 36, that's how maxed out the fast belt is. :P And as said in the above post, the ite...

You can find the maximum possible belt throughputs here: https://forums.factorio.com/wiki/index.php?title=Transport_belts/Physics#Measured_Results For fast belts and iron smelting steel furnaces it would be 19,73 / 2 * ( 3,5 / 2 ) = 18 (17,3) furnaces per fast belt side to reach maximum belt compre...

Thanks. Not sure what you mean by the 15 engine thing though. The small pumps shut off when there's no coal left, blocking the cold water from the offshore pumps from entering, and then the hot water tanks take over completely. When it does, no pump is being used at all. Each engine row uses the sta...

katyal wrote:Ender Wiggens, is that you?

The Factorio guy would be if he ever researches how to make a Dr. Device instead of rocket defense.

And it's done! Sorry, had to do it first, Skellitor xD. Just designed the improved steam engine setup with automated emergency water supply control. No return pipes, smart inserters/chests/wires needed at all, just a clean implementation using a boiler and steam engine as a coal detector to control ...

Version 2.0. Last updated 12/25/2017. Compatible with: Factorio 0.15.xx So a while ago, it came to my attention that boilers are now implemented differently, as of Factorio 0.15.xx. As such, the previous steam engine designs are no longer applicable. 30/60 boiler/engine rows have since become consi...

Can confirm OP with own tests that I ran earlier as well. As taken from my notes: - Approximate Max Throughput of One-Sided Belts in Terms of Total Smelting Speed: Normal Belt: 20 (3 Fast Inserters) Fast Belt: 36 (5 Fast Inserters) Express Belt: 53 (7 Fast Inserters) Normal and express belt speed on...

Yeah, that's also the aspect I'd like to improve on, when coal does run out. Though the existing setup is good for saving even more on the resources needed to set this up. And for the pump after boiler thing, assuming it would work by turning off if there's no coal...I should do that heh. Too bad it...

Yeah, you can just copy the picture basically. I thought the water tank battery thing was already known though, since the whole reason I even considered tanks after steam engines is because I read it on the wiki, at https://forums.factorio.com/wiki/index.php?title=Power_production/Storing_hot_water ...

One of the steam engine lines aren't connected btw, second up from the bottom. </nitpicking> I like the more efficient placement in the power poles, nice job with that. As for the spacing at the end with the tanks I'd leave those out since the engines rely on hot water and by the time the water get...

In response to seeing the "Compact Power Plant" steam engine setup, I designed one even more compact than that. Arranging them in triple rows allows me to use one electric pole to power like 6 steam engines, which really reduces on the amount of pipes and poles i need between them. Also wi...

First impression for me was: this is like the brainchild of factory design in Tekkit Classic for Minecraft and KOHCKPYKTOP, the circuitry sim game! And I love both. Followed by me spending the next hour remapping controls to be like Minecraft, then finding out that belts have a limited throughput an...

Wow, I'm just blown away by just how incredibly similar this would be to an amazing mix of Tekkit Classic factory design (for Minecraft) and KOHCKPYKTOP (the circuitry design game). Thank you so much for developing such a great game, and for paying SO much attention to detail, especially on the user...