Ability to bundle mods into collections. Version consistency between them and the game (optional), i.e. update mods and the game only after all the mods in the subscribed collections are updated. Easy one-button mod synchronization in multiplayer. Likes and ratings. Sorting mods by appearance, upda...

Remove beacons... In an earlier post, someone remarked that bots allow more beacons than you can fit with belts. Simple solution: remove beacons. But let’s say you want to keep beacons for some reason. What solution would allow maximum beacons if you chose to use belts instead of bots? I like the s...

TL;DR

Make logistic infrastructure more complex.

What?

What if in order to logistic chests work they had to be connected together and had a limited amount of connections?

Why?

Let's make the Logistic Network more fun!

If you read the last FFF carefully, they want the choice to matter. Currently, if you want to play effectively you have no choice but bots. That's not fun. I, and likely many others, find that belts have a fundamental disadvantage that cannot be overcome and will cause players to want to use bots w...

Instead of nerfing their effectiveness, increase the cost. Not necessarily in direct resource requirements. They already cost a lot , both in material and power equivalent! Making them even more expensive would change nothing, but the initial investments. Why? Because the bots themselves boost the ...

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I'm sorry for my reaction to the original BvB FFF. I still feel like the fundamental concept of nerfing something "just because everybody's using it" is flawed. If you believe belts are more fun, just you play with belts, and let me play with bots. All the nerfs you made to bots already d...

For everyone who say "bots are ok, belts are weak": If you make belts stronger then you have to make inserters faster and trains stronger and more capacious. The logistic balance is fine-tuned around the base yellow belt capacity, except bots that went out of control. So instead of nerfin...

One of the best solutions among others as Shados mentioned in his excellent review would be some sort of un/loading entity for trains. Just like a pump, but for solid items. But it should only deal with intermediate items from the 3rd tab.

Why not just restrict the number of bots per roboport just like personal roboports have? Possibly with the diminishing return inside one logistic network. Possibly with a minimal distance restriction between roboports. Possibly along with making the area of effect to be round. Possibly along with sp...

https://forums.factorio.com/download/file.php?id=33215 I'm not sure how would you make belts more space efficient other than totally getting rid of inserters in belt setups and embedding a direct loading from the belts into containers and assemblers. The devs proposed upgrading all belts with one r...

https://forums.factorio.com/download/file.php?id=33215 I'm not sure how would you make belts more space efficient other than totally getting rid of inserters in belt setups and embedding a direct loading from the belts into containers and assemblers. The devs proposed upgrading all belts with one r...

Caine wrote:

I'm not sure how would you make belts more space efficient other than totally getting rid of inserters in belt setups and embedding a direct loading from the belts into containers and assemblers.

darkfrei wrote:Like car on the belt, but with 1x1 collision box?

Or like running box? viewtopic.php?f=97&t=43293

Like a car on the belt but with cool features.

So many people proposed some sort of palleting and compressing items in belts now. And so I am :) But the main reason I propose them is not because of the compressing, but for the sake of versatility belts are lacking (unlike bots). So the idea is to put items in colored 1x1 tile containers with 3 t...

With a steady item flow, this wouldn't matter. It will be just the first bot would start 3 seconds later and the last ends 3 sec later. Introducing loading/unloading time would mostly nerf small versatile low quantity bot-based production lines instead, but that's totally against what devs want beca...

A simple and effective nerf to bots would be to limit the amount of roboports. Give the roboports and minimum distance they must be placed apart. Less roboports => less throughput, added more bots after a cap wouldn't add sustained throughput because the roboports wouldn't be able to keep up. ↑ this

Make chests 2x2. Not only this would increase the role of belts in the train stations, but also would make the perfect requester+provier+assembler setup not so perfect.

The problem with bots is exactly that they're almost infinitely expandable. That's why they're so powerful in a way that belts cannot fight with them in the late game. I would propose to nerf them by changing roboport mechanics. First: make the roboport area ROUND and slightly bigger. Secondly: make...

It's a limited throughput "balancer" and therefore it can produce gaps by design. For the sake of clear testing try to test it with just one row of splitters, and make another test with additional splitters on the sides instead of solo tile belts.