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by Belter
Tue Sep 12, 2023 8:31 pm
Forum: Combinator Creations
Topic: UPS Optimization - Green Science (editor)
Replies: 2
Views: 1889

Re: UPS Optimization - Green Science (editor)

Belter v0.1
- Just for reference, a 12B not-that bright solution
- Onshore smelting is from DaveMcW of course viewtopic.php?p=565564#p565564
- 117 UPS for me - FactorioBox
by Belter
Tue Sep 12, 2023 8:20 pm
Forum: Combinator Creations
Topic: UPS Optimization - Green Science (editor)
Replies: 2
Views: 1889

UPS Optimization - Green Science (editor)

Target: 100x1 full blue belt of Green Science pack, best UPS wins
For ppl interested in creating the ultimate UPS optimized Green Science factory, whatever it takes.
Please give (attach here in the forum) a savegame producing 100 belts, region cloned from a 1 belt module.
See also: UPS ...
by Belter
Mon Sep 11, 2023 7:53 am
Forum: News
Topic: Friday Facts #373 - Factorio: Space Age
Replies: 269
Views: 136242

Re: Friday Facts #373 - Factorio: Space Age

Please don't make the mid-game too painful!

PS: I have a feeling the a lot of decision was made already - and this is OK. Most of us here will buy it anyway, whatever Wube will release.
by Belter
Fri May 12, 2023 7:34 pm
Forum: Combinator Creations
Topic: UPS Optimization - Red Science (editor)
Replies: 85
Views: 24986

Re: UPS Optimization - Red Science (editor)

Stevetrov wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 11:06 am My second submission
https://factoriobox.1au.us/map/info/411 ... 4a91e874a4
I cannot download it, gives 404. Can you please re-upload it?
by Belter
Thu May 04, 2023 6:57 am
Forum: Combinator Creations
Topic: UPS Optimization - Red Science (editor)
Replies: 85
Views: 24986

Re: UPS Optimization - Red Science (editor)


The one thing that bothered me a bit about these tests was allowing for arbitrary ore patch placement via the editor.


These designs are intended for extreme late game, where everything is optimal for building a high UPS megabase


I'd like to thank you for both posting this, maybe others ...
by Belter
Wed Apr 26, 2023 8:55 am
Forum: Combinator Creations
Topic: UPS Optimization - Red Science (editor)
Replies: 85
Views: 24986

Re: UPS Optimization - Red Science (editor)


Some interesting feed / prod stack sizes and the # of required machines in case of different modding for 8 beacon setup:


Tried the 9B 2SM 2PM setup (light blue, but for 9 Beacon only 13 AMs reqd / lane). UPS-wise failed (522 UPS only).
The reason: had to add another iron smelter as the gears ...
by Belter
Wed Apr 26, 2023 8:37 am
Forum: Combinator Creations
Topic: UPS Optimization - Red Science (editor)
Replies: 85
Views: 24986

Re: UPS Optimization - Red Science (editor)

flame_Sla wrote: Tue Apr 25, 2023 8:13 am
Belter wrote: Mon Apr 24, 2023 7:04 pm ...Would be nice to have a mod which draws signals and assembly mahcine storage graphs ...
write a mod yourself
I don't think it will be difficult: every tick to save buffers of all assembly machines to a log file
Yeah, maybe... which machines, whjch signals to monitor, feature creep :-]
by Belter
Tue Apr 25, 2023 1:00 pm
Forum: Combinator Creations
Topic: UPS Optimization - Red Science (editor)
Replies: 85
Views: 24986

Re: UPS Optimization - Red Science (editor)

Some interesting feed / prod stack sizes and the # of required machines in case of different modding for 8 beacon setup:
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by Belter
Mon Apr 24, 2023 7:04 pm
Forum: Combinator Creations
Topic: UPS Optimization - Red Science (editor)
Replies: 85
Views: 24986

Re: UPS Optimization - Red Science (editor)

The top UPS versions are adding 12 plates/gears as they feed the RS machine every 2nd round only. They time themselves perfectly, basically feeding w/6 items, which is 8.4 packs due to +40% productivity. So the Red Science inserter puts 8 or 9 items on the belt. Far from optimal, but the full 12 ...
by Belter
Sat Apr 22, 2023 12:05 am
Forum: Combinator Creations
Topic: UPS Optimization - Red Science (editor)
Replies: 85
Views: 24986

Re: UPS Optimization - Red Science (editor)

Updated the first post with 4.2.10/11/12. On my system 4.2.2 still wins.
by Belter
Fri Apr 21, 2023 4:37 pm
Forum: Mechanical Throughput Magic (circuit-free)
Topic: UPS Optimization - the full belt myth
Replies: 26
Views: 11320

Re: UPS Optimization - the full belt myth


that is a good idea, mrvn. But this topic is about full blue belts vs partially filled blue belts. So far, partially filled belts are lighter on ups load in my tests.


Yes.. but. I think the problem with tests are the U turns. For the almost full belt much-much more items slips because of the ...
by Belter
Thu Apr 20, 2023 8:39 pm
Forum: Mechanical Throughput Magic (circuit-free)
Topic: UPS Optimization - the full belt myth
Replies: 26
Views: 11320

Re: UPS Optimization - the full belt myth

OK there is a big difference between the saves: I have very long lines and only 200 lines / 200 U turns. Your saves have 2000 lines / 2000 U turns. So more U turns (10x) and 1.5x belts.

So partial belts with turns are the worst for UPS :-]
by Belter
Thu Apr 20, 2023 8:13 pm
Forum: Mechanical Throughput Magic (circuit-free)
Topic: UPS Optimization - the full belt myth
Replies: 26
Views: 11320

Re: UPS Optimization - the full belt myth


Hello Belter:)
[...]
There seems to be a difference between full belts and not-full belts, the latter being better....:) Can you check my saves and confirm/falsify?


Hi!

1M belt segments, woah... For these saves I get the same results (after upgrading to 1.81..): not-full is faster.

full belt ...
by Belter
Thu Apr 20, 2023 6:08 am
Forum: Combinator Creations
Topic: UPS Optimization - Red Science (editor)
Replies: 85
Views: 24986

Re: UPS Optimization - Red Science (editor)


Interesting. I'll have to run the same


On the weekend I will also re-measure and update the 1st post. Tried to beat v4.2.2 and failed :mrgreen: so don't see the benefit of publishing more versions here from my side :) Still have some ideas, and for sure learned a lot again, TY!
- lower the ...
by Belter
Wed Apr 19, 2023 8:35 pm
Forum: Mechanical Throughput Magic (circuit-free)
Topic: UPS Optimization - the full belt myth
Replies: 26
Views: 11320

Re: UPS Optimization - the full belt myth

BIOS version is so old it is OC.. I've set BCLK 100->110 just why not. Got 620->709 UPS. I OC the CPU currenlty I know...

TY again! This is offtopic here...
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by Belter
Wed Apr 19, 2023 7:12 pm
Forum: Mechanical Throughput Magic (circuit-free)
Topic: UPS Optimization - the full belt myth
Replies: 26
Views: 11320

Re: UPS Optimization - the full belt myth

azesmbog wrote: Wed Apr 19, 2023 7:32 am first we look for a suitable BIOS, then we flash it, and only then, if necessary, we buy a good memory500-4700 MHz is quite achievable for this processor
Thank you so much! I'll dig into this.
by Belter
Wed Apr 19, 2023 6:59 am
Forum: Mechanical Throughput Magic (circuit-free)
Topic: UPS Optimization - the full belt myth
Replies: 26
Views: 11320

Re: UPS Optimization - the full belt myth

Well, I was in OC many-many years ago. Bought this mainboard from my colleauge as he upgraded :)

So you say to me that my old-a.s ASrock Z170 Pro4 mainboard which
"Supports DDR4 3866+(OC) memory modules"
could be able to produce 1.5x UPS in case I go and buy a faster memory kit??

Like DDR4 ...
by Belter
Tue Apr 18, 2023 9:38 pm
Forum: Combinator Creations
Topic: UPS Optimization - Red Science (editor)
Replies: 85
Views: 24986

Re: UPS Optimization - Red Science (editor)

guitars11 wrote: Tue Apr 18, 2023 9:07 pm This is a pretty cool breakdown of the different attributes. How did you do this?
Google sheets :) From the CSV attached to flame_Sla's post here
by Belter
Tue Apr 18, 2023 9:35 pm
Forum: Combinator Creations
Topic: UPS Optimization - Red Science (editor)
Replies: 85
Views: 24986

Re: UPS Optimization - Red Science (editor)

guitars11 wrote: Tue Apr 18, 2023 9:07 pm updated 4.5 and is now 4.5.1. I found 2 furnaces that were not working as intended, somehow the ore got messed up.
I don't get higher UPS for 4.5.1 than 4.5. Actually <1% slower - withing the margin of error: 610 vs 606 UPS.
by Belter
Tue Apr 18, 2023 8:28 pm
Forum: Mechanical Throughput Magic (circuit-free)
Topic: UPS Optimization - the full belt myth
Replies: 26
Views: 11320

Re: UPS Optimization - the full belt myth


https://factoriobox.1au.us/results/cpus?map=53590a606b6f0812dc4b9a54b7e5541239bb8ad3bfafdfae39e852055c1b5f06
Processor Intel Core i5-6400 912.4 913 , 912 , 911
Processor Intel Core i5-6500 616.0 620 , 617 , 616 , 614 , 613 , 610 , 610 , 563


I have zero idea how can you get 1.5x UPS w/a slower ...

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