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by Belter
Thu Feb 24, 2022 12:29 am
Forum: Combinator Creations
Topic: UPS optimized 12-beacon smelting - w/minimal circuits
Replies: 179
Views: 15722

Re: UPS optimized 12-beacon smelting - w/minimal circuits

Benchmark - 4 x 25.000 ticks - running vanilla Factorio, mods disabled - did my best to make sure all smelters which overproducing are full - saves attached, I've created 5x500 lanes with express loader/infinity chests to be able to run w/o mods - one controller for the 500 lanes edit: see the next...
by Belter
Wed Feb 23, 2022 11:54 pm
Forum: Combinator Creations
Topic: UPS optimized 12-beacon smelting - w/minimal circuits
Replies: 179
Views: 15722

Re: UPS optimized 12-beacon smelting - w/minimal circuits

Belter v6.80 - Applied the signal separaiton idea from this post - inspired by the BP from Blomz - Looks faster, benchmark to come later 0eNrVXe1uG7sRfZVC/Svnkhx+Gr0oUPQteoPAsTfJorYkrKT0pkHevVxtaivSrLRzRoijPzfXlrxnyTPkcjnncL7O3j9um1XXLjaz26+zh2Z937WrTbtczG5n/2zX99v1ut0uF7d/LD5tNqv17W+/fVh226f1mw939...
by Belter
Wed Feb 23, 2022 11:52 pm
Forum: Combinator Creations
Topic: UPS optimized 12-beacon smelting - w/minimal circuits
Replies: 179
Views: 15722

Re: UPS optimized 12-beacon smelting - w/minimal circuits

flame_Sla wrote:
Wed Feb 23, 2022 10:15 am
what is the build intended for?
For UPS :)
by Belter
Tue Feb 22, 2022 10:16 pm
Forum: Combinator Creations
Topic: UPS optimized 12-beacon smelting - w/minimal circuits
Replies: 179
Views: 15722

Re: UPS optimized 12-beacon smelting - w/minimal circuits

I'd recommend 5 x 50.000 tick runs for a little bit better results. But 10.000 or 25.000 is also as good - but have at least 5 runs please. Data and saves are in the same post above: https://forums.factorio.com/viewtopic.php?f=193&t=101673&p=562072#p562072 There are graphs there related. Ano...
by Belter
Tue Feb 22, 2022 10:09 pm
Forum: Combinator Creations
Topic: UPS optimized 12-beacon smelting - w/minimal circuits
Replies: 179
Views: 15722

Re: UPS optimized 12-beacon smelting - w/minimal circuits

I have no guarantee that without mods in vanilla, the benchmark results will be preserved I've did an analysis on that, focusing on Editor Extensions. I'll switch to vanilla, not beacuse I've found better numbers, but to keep things simpler and clean. See https://forums.factorio.com/viewtopic.php?f...
by Belter
Tue Feb 22, 2022 10:05 pm
Forum: Combinator Creations
Topic: UPS optimization - benchmarking w/ or w/o mods
Replies: 6
Views: 596

UPS optimization - benchmarking w/ or w/o mods

Disabling mods? Suggestion: disable, benchmark vanilla only - I was not that happy to disable mods for benchmarking tests but it came up there - How cooler is Editor Extension’s underground belt for creating ore / dumping plates? Yes, cooler than the vanilla exp loader & the inf chest - But as ...
by Belter
Mon Feb 21, 2022 7:22 pm
Forum: Combinator Creations
Topic: UPS optimized 12-beacon smelting - w/minimal circuits
Replies: 179
Views: 15722

Re: UPS optimized 12-beacon smelting - w/minimal circuits

I'm using the script w/my modificaitons from Factorio-Benchmark-Powershell
BTW a nice doc on benchmarking in reddit: /r/technicalfactorio/.../guide_how_to_benchmark_in_factorio/
by Belter
Sun Feb 20, 2022 5:34 pm
Forum: Combinator Creations
Topic: UPS optimized 12-beacon smelting - w/minimal circuits
Replies: 179
Views: 15722

Re: UPS optimized 12-beacon smelting - w/minimal circuits

Note: I've replaced my benchmark here as this finding made it invalid, as I've mixed vanilla and EE results. Will redo it with a consistent way, most likely vanilla. I've re-created an 500 lane test for 3 scenarios to test EE impact - Zero Mod EL: no mods, using express loaders / infinity chests (B...
by Belter
Sun Feb 20, 2022 8:18 am
Forum: Combinator Creations
Topic: UPS optimized 12-beacon smelting - w/minimal circuits
Replies: 179
Views: 15722

Re: UPS optimized 12-beacon smelting - w/minimal circuits

Dear all,

Please move to 500 lane tests. Its more accurate. See my analysis viewtopic.php?f=193&t=101648
flame_Sla wrote:
Sun Feb 20, 2022 3:22 am
probably the mod "EditorExtensions" strongly affects UPS
Removal of editor extensions would make testing more painful, I'm look into that now.
by Belter
Sun Feb 20, 2022 8:10 am
Forum: Combinator Creations
Topic: UPS optimization - 100vs500 lanes (spoiler: 500 lanes results are more stable)
Replies: 4
Views: 695

UPS optimization - 100vs500 lanes (spoiler: 500 lanes results are more stable)

Problem - Seeking for more stable benchmarking results I'd expect a bigger load to give more accurate results - Like a smelting benchmark testing w/100 lanes (1000 UPS) vs w/500 lanes (160 UPS): 500 lanes should be better Test - I took 3 blueprints and ran them 5 x 25.000 ticks for each (see this i...
by Belter
Sat Feb 19, 2022 8:35 pm
Forum: Combinator Creations
Topic: UPS optimized 12-beacon smelting - w/minimal circuits
Replies: 179
Views: 15722

Re: UPS optimized 12-beacon smelting - w/minimal circuits

disentius wrote:
Sat Feb 19, 2022 8:33 pm
already did that, see above results (davemcW v5) it looks like its faster, but the differences are marginal with 100 belts
Sorry I have to read back a lot! Processing...
by Belter
Sat Feb 19, 2022 8:28 pm
Forum: Combinator Creations
Topic: UPS optimized 12-beacon smelting - w/minimal circuits
Replies: 179
Views: 15722

Re: UPS optimized 12-beacon smelting - w/minimal circuits

flame_Sla wrote:
Fri Feb 18, 2022 3:55 am
Belter,
why is a full belt used to feed ore?
it should be much better this way
To be measured! So you suggest that having 2x half belts is more UPS firendly as the insterers don't have to pick from 2 sides? This bothers me now :D
by Belter
Sat Feb 19, 2022 8:22 pm
Forum: Combinator Creations
Topic: UPS optimized 12-beacon smelting - w/minimal circuits
Replies: 179
Views: 15722

Re: UPS optimized 12-beacon smelting - w/minimal circuits

Was invited to post my version here, so here it is. Inserter timings calculation is described here: https://www.reddit.com/r/technicalfactorio/comments/svbupq/how_to_make_a_fully_compressed_belt_via_inserter/ Welcome here! Why not put signals 0/1/2/3/4 on the same wire? Can you do a left->right dir...
by Belter
Sat Feb 19, 2022 7:03 pm
Forum: Combinator Creations
Topic: UPS optimization - say Substations once more...
Replies: 12
Views: 890

Re: UPS optimization - say Substations once more...

And a feature request: keep the timers apart, I ant to use 1 timer per map of 100/300/500 furnaces) OK, let's agree on this. Also the reported UPS is a derived value made in the script I use, so i tend to use the execution time, min/max/avg as reported by the benchmark command as leading The scirpt...
by Belter
Sat Feb 19, 2022 6:49 pm
Forum: Combinator Creations
Topic: UPS optimized 12-beacon smelting - w/minimal circuits
Replies: 179
Views: 15722

Re: UPS optimized 12-beacon smelting - w/minimal circuits

Ruled out Windows Safe mode - same 1% stability in numbers
viewtopic.php?f=193&t=101643&p=561920#p561920
by Belter
Sat Feb 19, 2022 6:48 pm
Forum: Combinator Creations
Topic: UPS optimization - Windows Safe mode benefits? (spoiler: no)
Replies: 0
Views: 174

UPS optimization - Windows Safe mode benefits? (spoiler: no)

Hunt for more stable benchmarking results - Factorio benchmarks seems to have 1%-3% accuracy - I've tried using Windows Safe mode - expected more stable numbers - Also turning Debug on/off (F5 before save) and setting the speed to normal or 64x - just to see if there is any effect - expected no eff...
by Belter
Wed Feb 16, 2022 8:57 am
Forum: Combinator Creations
Topic: UPS optimization - say Substations once more...
Replies: 12
Views: 890

Re: UPS optimization - say Substations once more...

TY for testing! It is pretty interesting to have different results, even if the diff is low. For now we see diff output for 100 and 500 lanes. Havig the savegames is crucial and TY for attaching. On the weekend I'll do a scalability testing w/100/200/300/400/500 lanes to understand the difference. A...
by Belter
Tue Feb 15, 2022 1:07 pm
Forum: Combinator Creations
Topic: UPS optimization - say Substations once more...
Replies: 12
Views: 890

Re: UPS optimization - say Substations once more...

coppercoil wrote:
Tue Feb 15, 2022 9:00 am
First thought: wtf???
Second thought: lets make the graph correct.
First thought: You're right.
Second thought: Do you see the 1% mark with yellow on that graph?
by Belter
Tue Feb 15, 2022 12:04 pm
Forum: Combinator Creations
Topic: UPS optimized 12-beacon smelting - w/minimal circuits
Replies: 179
Views: 15722

Re: UPS optimized 12-beacon smelting - w/minimal circuits

disentius wrote:
Tue Feb 15, 2022 10:55 am
Davemcw with substation will beat yours:)
Use v6.78 pls, not 6.75

Substation v6.78s is here: viewtopic.php?f=193&t=101598&p=561689#p561689 with saves.

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