vanilla behaviour:

welcome:)

First: As long as you do not see the no path appear above the train, it doesn't count:) Second:. your use of chain signals causes the very brief no path. Change all chains to rails, and the no path disappears. the trains seem to work like you intend. Proof: 0eNqtnNlu8kgQhV9l5GuI3Ls7F/MiowgRcP7fGmIj2...

I want to make a smart version too, so might as well limit fuel intake in this one as the "base" concept for that.

I am working on something like this atm. Here is what I have: a very simple extensible power plant. First segment (start) is a 480 MW (4 reactors) build. you add 360MW (2 reactors) with every extension. (the blueprint is in testing mode. you need editor extensions and magic lamp mods) My design cons...

that is a good idea, mrvn. But this topic is about full blue belts vs partially filled blue belts. So far, partially filled belts are lighter on ups load in my tests.

partial belts are faster:)
I did the same test with straight belts, Ill post it tomorrow. same results: full belts are worse for UPS...

Hello Belter:) To go back to the topic: I downloaded your saves from factoriobox. There were mods active, so I made my own. I made a belt loop from 2k belts, and copied it 1000 times(so 1001 loops) It is surprisingly difficult to fill a belt without some inequalities. if anyone got a good system, pl...

You are correct, the "last grab inbalance" is not solved by this system.
hm. would setting max stacksize 10 om the inserters not solve that?

Putin's chest (factorio reddit) has made a simple solution lane balance first, then belt balance later.
Works for all belt types.
thoughts?

oos:) I forgot to put in the proper number of turbines. thanks, pi

concept compact setup (editor + editor extentions test setup) 0eNrNnVtzE8kShP+Lnm2i7xfe91ecIAjZHowibNmhy1l8CP/3MxILSIGSymzvA/vCAuab6pmqnktldn9d3Dzsp+fNar1bvP+6WN0+rbeL9//5utiu7tfLh8Of7V6ep8X7xWo3PS6uFuvl4+F32920fLze7Tc3q/W0eL1arNZ305fFe//64WoxrXer3Wr6Bjr+5uXjev94M23mH/iBmKbr1frTaj3/7fXnabm7fl7NB7paP...

20 turbines produce 2060 fluid/s to sustain that flow you need to limit your pipe segment count to 3. this doesn't work with a line of 20 HE's.
the throughput table and some other details are here:
https://wiki.factorio.com/Fluid_system

Here is an in depth explanation of the fluid system (this is how it still works.)
https://web.archive.org/web/20171227174 ... 18&t=19851

what is the difference with this one?
https://factoriobin.com/post/2blkEgmK

there are better solutions, it came up on discord recently:

Miniloaders: The in-built loaders in factorio now support loading/unloading trains, and are a lighter load on UPS. I suggest using aai loaders, or optera's loader redux as replacement LTN: there is a new train,manager, worth a check: Cybersyn. https://mods.factorio.com/mod/cybersyn To check your bui...

And: pathfinding happens when a train wants to leave its station, not in real time, unless there is a repath condition.

yep:)

Input balanced is per definition input lane balanced, since the lanes can be independently consumed downstream, and you want to consume the input lanes evenly.
And I agree, TU is overkill in most situations.